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wise, that Gen. Villa and his army were in revolt against the Mexican Government. Still the circumstances unequivocally indicate that whenever American rights were infringed upon by the alleged command of Gen. Villa, and whenever Americans were killed by military forces or outraged, the Mexican Government, it appears, not only failed to punish the perpetrators of the offenses, but, with the use of its own governmental troops, as in the case of Gen. Villa, who was alleged to have committed the outrages at Columbus, N. Mex., actively interferred when the military forces of the United States attempted to apprehend and punish the criminals, for it is now a matter of history that when the United States Government, recognizing the delinquency of the Mexican Government in its failure to apprehend and punish the perpetrators of the crimes committed at Columbus, sent its troops across the border into Mexico to apprehend and punish the offenders, the Mexican Government by use of its government troops actively interferred and engaged, at the city of Parral, in the State of Chihuahua, the American forces in battle, in which a number of American soldiers were killed, and thereby prevented further pursuit and permitted the guilty persons to escape.

Thereafter, about June 21, 1916, another detachment of American soldiers, sent in pursuit of a detachment of the army of Gen. Villa, was ambushed near the town of Carrizal, in the State of Chihuahua, by a force of governmental troops under the direct comand of Gen. Felix de Gomez, who was subject to the command of Gen. Jacinto de Trevino, the federal general commanding that military one, and an attack was made by order of the chief executive of the nation, Gen. Venustiano Carranza, as reported in the public press. In that battle a number of American soldiers were killed, including Capt. Boyd and Capt. Morey.

It thus seems clear that the facts and circumstances show unerringly that the acts and conduct of the Mexican Government and its government officials, respecting the vile and villainous acts and barbarousness of its military forces against American citizens, are wholly inconsistent with its official pretenses and utterances.

If this Government should establish a protectorate in Mexico. similar to that in Cuba, it would be advisable, in my opinion, for the Government to appoint a commission to adjust all American claims, and to assume the payment of them, and liquidate them by the issuing of Government bonds, and also provide sufficient funds to put the Mexican Government in position to liquidate the other foreign claims against it, and maintain a proper government.

(Whereupon the committee adjourned, subject to the call of the chairman.)

INVESTIGATION OF MEXICAN AFFAIRS

Duf.

HEARING

BEFORE A

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
UNITED STATES SENATE

SIXTY-SIXTH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

PURSUANT TO

S. Res. 106

DIRECTING THE COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS TO
INVESTIGATE THE MATTER OF OUTRAGES ON CITIZENS
OF THE UNITED STATES IN MEXICO

PART 19

Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Relations

WASHINGTON

GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS.

HENRY CABOT LODGE, Massachusetts, Chairman.

PORTER J. MCCUMBER, North Dakota.
WILLIAM E. BORAH, Idaho.
FRANK B. BRANDEGEE, Connecticut.
ALBERT B. FALL, New Mexico.
PHILANDER C. KNOX, Pennsylvania.
WARREN G. HARDING, Ohio.
HIRAM W. JOHNSON, California.
HARRY S. NEW, Indiana.

GEORGE H. MOSES, New Hampshire.

GILBERT H. HITCHCOCK, Nebraska.
JOHN SHARP WILLIAMS, Mississippi.
CLAUDE A. SWANSON, Virginia.
ATLEE POMERENE, Ohio.
MARCUS A. SMITH, Arizona.
KEY PITTMAN, Nevada.

JOHN K. SHIELDS, Tennessee.

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INVESTIGATION OF MEXICAN AFFAIRS.

THURSDAY, MAY 6, 1920.

UNITED STATES SENATE,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,

Washington, D. C.

The subcommittee met pursuant to call at 11 o'clock a. m., in room 128. Senate Office Building, Senator Albert B. Fall presiding.

TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM TEITLEBAUM.

(The witness was duly sworn by the chairman.) The CHAIRMAN. You may give your name in full. Mr. TEITLEBAUM. William Teitlebaum.

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Teitlebaum, you telegraphed to the chairman of this committee a few days since from New York City expressing a desire to appear before the committee and make a statement with reference to the subject of this investigation.

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. In answer to your telegram, you were notified that the committee would hear you either then, the latter part of April, or early this week.

Are you a citizen of the United States?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. In the eyes of the law, I am not, Senator; in service and love, I am a very fair one.

The CHAIRMAN. Of what country are you a native?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I am a Hungarian by birth.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you ever been naturalized as a citizen of the United States?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. No, sir; I have not.

The CHAIRMAN. Where do you reside?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I reside in New York City at the present time. The CHAIRMAN. What is your business?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I am engaged in one of the various businesses that is known where a scavenger is clean alongside of it-broker. The CHAIRMAN. You have not expressed as fully as you might, I presume, what is your business?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. General broker of food products, sugar, and coal.

The CHAIRMAN. Where is your place of business?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. At the present time I have none. I am simply

a free lance.

The CHAIRMAN. Are you associated with any firm or with any other person in business?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. No, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What is your occupation at the present time?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Brokerage. for instance, the first money for some little while that I have had I made last week, of $150, which I am using to bring this service before you.

The CHAIRMAN. What was your occupation in 1910 and 1911?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I had interests in San Antonio in the amusement field, and prior to that in irrigation.

The CHAIRMAN. You mean San Antonio, Tex.?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What kind of irrigation were you interested in? Mr. TEITLEBAUM. The air lift.

The CHAIRMAN. You mean lifting the water from wells by air pressure?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Where was that? Was that at Pearsall, Tex.? Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. What was the extent of your activities in the irrigation line at that time?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Well, I had organized that Pearsall undertaking, and after that tried to further it through parties in San Antonio. The CHAIRMAN. You have expressed a desire to give this committee information about Mexico. Just proceed. I would like to ask you to make your story just as concise and short as possible. The time of the committee is limited. We would like to have any facts that you have upon which you may base any suggestions that you have to make. Just proceed in your own way.

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Unfortunately, I am not as direct in speech as yourself, and I have to beg the committee's indulgence a little bit. I am very reluctant in coming before the committee with the broken life, but I feel the responsibility of investigations which I have conducted, reseach that I have made in the Mexican situation, that I can not escape that responsibility in bringing it before your committee. The CHAIRMAN. How did you happen to make such investigations?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I organized while in San Antonio the American Anti-Intervention Association.

The CHAIRMAN. What year?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I think it was in 1910.

The CHAIRMAN. Who were the other organizers?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Dr. Brumley.

The CHAIRMAN. Where did he live?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. He lived in San Antonio.

The CHAIRMAN. Where does he live now?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. I think in Austin.

The CHAIRMAN. Who else?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. That was all.

The CHAIRMAN. Just Dr. Brumley and yourself?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir.

The CHAIRMAN. Was he a citizen of the United States?

Mr. TEITLEBAUM. Yes, sir. He is one of the board of health com

missioners of the State of Texas.

The CHAIRMAN. Residing then in San Antonio?

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