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Witnesses:

The following represented the United States Department
of Agriculture and responded to Member's questions on
the Food Stamp Program:

1.

Mr. Robert Greenstein, Acting Administrator, Food
and Nutrition Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture,
Washington, D.C.

Statements Filed:

None

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Thursday, May 10, 1979
Domestic Marketing, Consumer

Relations, and Nutrition Subcommittee
Business Meeting
Food Stamps
H.R. 2412

Action Taken:

Without objection Richmond substitute amendment approved as
markup vehicle.

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By roll call vote of 3 yeas-5 nays Grassley amendment
raising cap not agreed to.

By unanimous voice vote Glickman amendment raising cap
approved.

By roll call yote of 6 yeas-2 nays H.R. 2412, as amended,
ordered reported to the full Committee in the presence of a
quorum.

Chairman Richmond called the meeting to order for the purpose of markup of H.R. 2412, a bill to amend section 18 of the Pood Stamp Act of 1977.

Counsel Kramer was recognized to explain the provisions and purpose of the bill. Attached are charts which were submitted pursuant to questions of the Subcomunittee.

Mr. Richmond offered the attached substitute amendment and without objection it was open for amendment at any point.

Mr. Grassley offered an amendment to raise the cap on the food stamp program to the figure reflected in the Simon amendment to the Third Concurrent Resolution on the Budget which was adopted by the House, as follows:

Strike all in lines 8 through 11 and insert
in lieu thereof: "not in excess of $6,674,000,000".

Discussion occurred on the amendment, and Mr. Grassley requested a recorded vote on the amendment. The vote follows:

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Mr. Symms (proxy to Mr. Grassley)
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Thus, by a roll call vote of 3 yeas-5 nays the Grassley amendment was not agreed to.

Mr. Glickman offered an amendment to raise the food stamp cap to $6,808,900,000. Discussion occurred and by a unanimous voice vote the amendment was approved.

Mr. Grassley requested a recorded vote on the reporting of the bill, as amended, to the full Committee, and the vote follows:

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Thus, by a roll call vote of 6 yeas-2 nays H.R. 2412, as amended, ordered favorably reported to the full Committee in the presence of a quorum.

Staff was directed to prepare a clean bill to reflect the Subcommittee's intent for introduction and consideration by the full Committee.

At 11:25 a.m. of the Chair.

the meeting was adjourned, subject to the call

Grenser Temple

Glenda Temple

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$6,900

$7,150

: Administration's current estimate (5/8/79)

Based on actual data for January-Apr11
and projections for May-September
April data are from 17% sample

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Difference

1,301

100%

1,551

100%

Amount of difference due to:

Changes in bill from House to final enactment

119

9%

119

87

Food price inflation

745

57%

856

55%

5,599

5,599

Committee Staff estimate

Used to set cap

Elimination of the purchase requirement
- more people enter program than expected

they come on sooner

362

28%

491

327

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Question:

If benefits are cut from food stamp recipients at the higher

end of the income scale, is it possible to exempt the elderly and disabled

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the income information necessary to compute the amount of food stamps that

households receive.

The computers do not have identifiers that distinguish

There is simply no way to cut households with

the elderly and disabled.

higher incomes and exempt elderly and disabled from this reduction.

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