APPENDIX L.

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No. 32.

MICHAEL MACAULAY, of Gloucester, Mass., fisherman and master mariner, called on behalf of the Government of the United States, sworn and examined.

By Mr. Foster :

Question. You are skipper of a schooner out of Gloucester ?—Answer.

Yes.

Q. What is the name ?-A. The Noonday.

Q. Where were you born?-A. In Prince Edward Island.

Q. How many years have you been fishing?-A. About twelve years.

Q. The first part of the time for mackerel and at present for cod?A. Yes.

Q. How do you happen in here?-A. I came in here with a sick man from the Grand Banks.

Q. And you have been in command of this vessel two years?—A. Yes; about that.

Q. Before that you were fishing as a sharesman?- A. Yes.

Q. How many years were you cod fishing?-A. Seven years, I guess. Q. Where?—A. On the Grand Bank.

Q. Now, when you began to go cod fishing to the Grand Bank, how did you supply yourselves with bait ?-A. We took it from home. We used to get some on the Banks in the summer time.

Q. What did you take with you?-A. Salt bait, pogy slivers.

Q. Slivers are pogies and menbaden cut off the bones ?-A. Fish cut off the bone each side.

Q. What else?-A. We used to put that on, and what we used to pick up on the Bank; small halibut and other small fish.

Q. How long is it since you began to go to Newfoundland for bait?— A. Well, it is about four years since I have first been there for herring. I guess we were there as soon as any of them.

Q. When you go to Newfoundland for herring, how do you get it?A. We take it out of the seines.

Q. How do you pay for it ?-A. We pay so much.

Q. How much, usually?-A. Well, there are certain times they charge pretty high. At other times they don't charge so high. We paid as high as $25 this summer, and took as much as we wanted.

Q. How many times have you been in this summer for bait ?—A. I have been in for herring twice.