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thoughts, in reference to this or any other subject, in it is judicious and desirable. Instead of adding to the order to square with the gentleman's views of states- tax now imposed upon intercourse among the people manship. Perhaps it is necessary that one should ex- through the mail, (as the proposition of the Post Office tend his reasoning over a State equal in territory and Committee would,) it would lessen it between all points, population, if it is to be found, with the great State of and lighten the burden of postage now borne by the New York, in order to reach statesmanlike views that people. Such a measure I am entirely in favor of. would be satisfactory to that gentleman. Or perhaps But, sir, it has been attempted to dissuade the House one should swell somewhat larger, and embrace a por. against the tariff of postage now under consideration, on tion or the whole of some other State or States, to an. the ground that it will reduce the revenues of the Post swer the purpose. (Yes, the whole Union, replied Mr. Office Department to such an extent as to stop the usual MANS.) The whole Union must be included, says the yearly extension of mail facilities. And the letter of the honorable gentleman. It may be, sir, that such is the Postmaster General, sent into the House this morning view which that gentleman bas taken; but if it be so, his through the honorable chairman of the Post Office Com. “statesmanlike" views stop not at sacrificing the inter- mittee, had been quoted to prove that the reduction of ests of an entire State of this Union, without conferring some $500,000 yearly will be effected in the revenues of upon it a single benefit in return. I claim to be govern. the Department by this tariff, estimating it upon the ed by no such principles of statesmanship as obviously revenues of the last year; while the tariff of the commitsacrifice one of these States for the benefit of the re- tee will reduce them something like $200,000. But this mainder, and much less for the benefit of a fractional estimate of the Postmaster General claims to be only a part of the remainder. I believe it has not been pre hasty calculation, and pretends not to make any credit iended, it certainly has not yet been demonstrated by whatever to the natural and inevitable growth of the any gentleman, that the proposition of the Post Office revenue of the Department. What, sir, has been this Committee will operate equitably upon all the other growth during the last eight years, and what has it acStates except Maine. I do not pretend to know what its complished? We have been told, that only about one operations will be upon either the Middle or the Western year or eighteen months since, the Department was in States of the Union. But I do know, sir, that from my debt over one million of dollars, from a too great extenknowledge of what its operations must and will be upon the sion of mail fucilities, or from other causes combined interests of Maine--the State which I have the lionor to Therewith. We are now told, at the expiration of a year to represent, in part, upon this floor—it is highly unsat- or eighteen months at fartbest, that this enormous deficit isfactory and oppressive. Nor do I, sir, claim to act up has been extinguished, or is about being extinguished, on higher or broader views of statesmanship than are but a surplus revenue is shortly to be found in the suggested by such facts and such local knowledge, ir it Treasury Department. must be so called, than are actually within my reach. I This is the strength of the Department's operations reason, as Pope says, from what I know; and

within a single year, or in eighteen months at most. And “ How can we reason but from what we know?"

is there so much cause for apprehension about the re.

duction of the revenues of the Department in the sum of If the gentleman from New York does pretend to $500,000, even though there was no natural and inevitaknow the effect of this bill upon each State of the Uuion, ble growth in them to offset or provide against it? Look, he must know, sir, that there are no two points of any sir, as I before suggested, through the bistory of the considerable business importance within the State of Department for the last eight years, and mark what it has Maine, which will not be most prejudicially affected by accomplished with only its own naked revenues. It has the proposition or rates of postage reported by bis com paid off all its expenditures, or nearly squared them, as mittee. My colleague has told you the effect of it upon we are told by the present Postmaster General; and, in his section of the State. Let us take the two most prom- the mean time, it has extended mail facilities over the inent points of business in the State, the cities of Port. whole country to over one half-yes, sir, to nearly land and Bangor, and it imposes an additional tax of double the amount that existed at the commencement of two and one half cents upon every letter that will be in that period. Eight years ago, the mail transportation terchanged by them. The effect upon the intercourse in stages, steamboats, sulkies, and on horseback, through the mail between Bangor and Boston is the amounted in the yearly aggregate to about fourteen same. That upon the intercourse between Portland and millions and five' bundred thousand miles. It now Boston, Bath and Boston, and Augusta and Boston, is the amounts to nearly, if not quite, double that sum. The same. It is an increase of postage also upon all business aggregate yearly revenue of the Department, eight between Bangor and New York, and Portland and New years ago, was about one million seven hundred thousand York; and I believe every other point in the State and dollars. The Postmaster General now estimates the the city of New York. This is the result of a compari- revenues of the Department, per annum, at three milson beiween the law as it now stands and the p'oposed | lions of dollars. And, after making allowances for all law of the Post Office Committee. The rates of postage | the requisite additions of mail facilities, to be effected as now established are far more preferable, so far as the during the coming year, to be paid for out of the prowhole State of Maine, and even so far as every part of ceeds of past investments, a surplus of about two hun. the State, separately considered, is interested in the sub- dred thousand dollars is anticipated, at the lowest estiject of postage. sir, ought the interests of a whole mate. Sir, these facts demonstrate that there is no cause State to be thus sacrificed to “statesmanlike” views or for apprehension on account of reduction in the revenue any other views! It can never be done by a deliberative of the Department by the proposition of the gentleman body.

froin Massachusetts. I repeat, that the estimated re. Mr. S. said he was in favor of a new tariff of postage, if duction by it of the Postmaster General's letter makes it could be agreed upon. He was in favor of getting rid no account of the certain addition of revenue to the De. of the quarter cent, and half cent, and six cent rates, partment, arising from the constant increase of business and substituting the half dime, the dime, and a similar throughout the country, and beyond the extension of denomination of increase. He was in favor of the prop- mail facilities. osition which the gentleman from Massachusetts had I should like very much to see the other side of this madde, and hoped the vote by which it had been adopted account worked ouć upon paper by the present shrewd, might not be reconsidered. So far as my own knowl. intelligent, and talented Postmaster General. I should edge of wbat its operations must be extends, said Mr. S., I like to see his figures, demonstrating what the growth of H. OF R.]

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revenue in the Department would be over and above Mr. GRENNELL moved a call of the House. Lost. the usual expenditures and mail extension, and what it The question on reconsidering was then taken, and can bear, running the calculation through a series of decided in the negative: Yeas 66, nays 81. years to come, as he would know well how to do, and So the motion to reconsider was lost. not confining it to the operations of a single year. The question then recurred on agreeing to the section Where the annual increase of revenue is clearly out of as amended. proportion to the necessary increase of mail extension, Mr. LAWRENCE moved to amend the first clause of it is evident that every year will admit of further the same section by inserting 1837, instead of 1836. diminution of that revennie, without curtailing the usual | Agreed to. extension of mail facilities. Now, sir, it is this state of After some remarks by Messrs. PHILLIPS, VAN. things in the Post Office Department that I would take | DERPOEL, and DUNLAP, the question was taken on advantage of, and by it reduce the rates of postage concurring with the Committee of the Whole in the throughout the land. And even though such a reduc section as amended, and it was decided in the negative: tion should operate to make the Post Office Department, Yeas 65, nays 91. to some extent, an annualcharge upon the Treasury of the So the House refused to concur, and the clause was nation, I would still advocate it as a matter of both jus stricken out. tice and expediency under the existing condition of the Mr. ADAMS moved to reconsider the vote by which Treasury of this Government. As a matter of justice, the following amendment of the Committee of the the Federal Government can afford to contribute to the whole was concurred in: support of the Department. Its services for the Gov. “ SEC. 5. That the Treasurer of the United States ernment, if taxed as individuals are taxed for its services, shall give receipts for all moneys received by him to the would exceed a million of dollars per annum. Why, credit of the appropriation.Strike out the words in ihen, fear to throw the Department upon the national italics, and insert in lieu thereof the following: “ duly Treasury to some extent, if the proposed measure will deposited to his credit in bank.” so operate? which I do not believe. Sir, I am in favor Mr. ADAMS addressed the House for some time in of a reduction of the postages now imposed upon the support of his motion, and in opposition to the amend. people. The time has come when the people are enti. iled to relief from the burdens imposed upon them by Mr. CONNOR explained that the clause bad been the Federal Government; and the time has not only come amended to render it consistent with the present mode for this, but for the rising of a feeling of general com- of conducting the financial affairs of the Department. plaint that the legislation of the Federal Government Mr. PARKER did not entirely approve of the clause operates to gather into the Treasury large masses of as it had been amended. The word “bank" was too in. funds that can serve no great or good purpose, and definite, too ambiguous; and by whom was the selection produces only excitement and distraction throughout the to be made? country.

Mr. McKAY thought all objection might be obviated Sir, I am prepared to lighten this taxation upon the by inserting another section or proviso, that the banks people in any and in every way that presents an opportu. in which the money might be deposited should be senity' for it; and I have none of the apprehensions of lected by the Treasurer, under the direction of the Post. other gentlemen of bad effects resulting from the reduc- master General. lion of postage now proposed; and first, because I have Mr. MANN, of New York, said he saw no objection no faith in the predictions that the Post Office Depart. to restoring the clause as it was originally reported, and inent will be in any degree embarrassed by it; and next, he hoped the motion to reconsider would prevail. because, if that should be the case, the federal Treasury Mr. ADAMS did not approve of the suggestion of the is competent to contribute relief, without adding one gentleman from North Carolina, (Mr. Mckar] cent to the taxes now gathered from the people.

The motion to reconsider was then agreed to, and the Mr. Speaker, I will detain the House only to add a amendment was non-concurred in. word of admonition to those gentlemen who prefer the Mr. FAIRFIELD moved to non-concur in the follow. law as it now stands, to the proposed law of the com- ing amendment: mittee. If they wish to secure their object, and retain “Sec. 40. And be it further enacted, That in case the the law as it now stands, let them beware of voting in Postmaster General shall deem it expedient to establish favor of reconsidering the motion of the gentleman from an express mail on horseback, in addition to the ordinary Massachusetts. For if that motion he reconsidered, I mail, on any of the post roads in the United States, for believe there will be a combination of feeling and inter. the purpose of conveying slips from newspapers in lieu est--of feeling in some quarter in favor of changing the of exchange newspapers, or letters other than such as rates of postage-- from considerations connected with contain money, not exceeding half an ounce in weight, the currency, perhaps, and of interest elsewhere, marked 'express mail,' and public despatches, he shall arising from local advantages which may be foreseen, be authorized charge all letters and packets carried sufficient to sustain and carry the proposition of the by such express mail with triple the rates of postage to committee, unequal as it is upon some of the States. If which letters and packets, not free, may be by law sub. the motion to reconsider be negatived, the question ject, when carried by the ordinary mails." will stand between the law as it now is, and the tariff Mr. FAIRFIELD said he hoped the House would not proposed by the gentleman from Massachusetts, (Mr. concur with the Committee of the Whole in adopting LAWRENCE.) I ain, individually, in favor of this last this amendment. He viewed it as a specimen of that proposition. But if this cannot be adopted, I hope to course of legislation which had prevailed for so many avoid the proposition of the commillee, and retain the years that it might now be regarded as a system—that tariff of postage now provided by law.

of legislating for the benefit of the few, regardless of After some further remarks from Messrs. HUNT, the rights and interests of the many. The proposition MILLER, VINTON, REED, LAWRENCE, WIL-is, substantially, to establish an express mail for letters LIAMS of North Carolina, BRIGGS, JOHNSON of and newspaper slips, to be carried on horseback, at triple Louisiana, DENNY, MANN of New York, GILLET, the present rate of postage. This is, substantially, the PEARCE of Rhode Island, and EVERETT,

proposition; for though the Postmaster General has now Mr. PHILLIPS asked for the yeas and nays; which The power to establish an express mail, yet he has no were ordered.

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out such increase it cannot be supposed that such a mail cities those sufficiently interested in his affairs to be would be established. It is true that the proposed equally on the alert with the speculators to obtain in. amendment will still leave the matter to the discretion formation, and equally ready and early to communicate of the Postmaster General; but he and every body else it? Such a supposition cannot be entertained. Such will consider the adoption or rejection of this amendo friends are not to be found every day; and to hire a host ment as an approval or disapproval of this project, and of agents for this purpose would be burdensome and he will undoubtedly act accordingly. Mr. F. said he oppressive in the extreme. therefore felt himself justified in regarding this as a di- But, saying nothing of the speculators, I ask, said Mr. rect proposition to establish an express mail.

F., if it would not in practice be giving one class of merNow, sir, if we look at the places where this mail chants an advantage over others? It was not to be supwould probably be started, or the persons who are par- posed that all would adopt this mail for their correspond. ticularly interested in it, and who would avail themselves ence, unless, indeed, in the way of self-defence, they of it, no one can view it as a measure designed for the were all compelled to resort to it; in which case it would common benefit of the people, but rather one designed be imposing a heavy burden upon the young merchant for a very few, and those who, to say the least of them, who had just commenced business, and perhaps with a are no more deserving of favors from the Government small capital. To the wealthy merchant, him who is than others. Where, sir, will this express mail be es- worth his hundreds of thousands, this triple postage tablished! Undoubtedly between the great commercial would be a matter of no consequence; but it would be cities.

far otherwise to men of smaller capital, but who are It can support itself nowhere else, and indeed it is quite as much deserving of aid from the Government as very doubtful whether it could support itself there. It the more wealthy. The probability is, therefore, that would, therefore, be confined not only to the large mari- all would not avail themselves of this express mail; it ti mecities, but to a very few of them-say those betweer. would be confined to a few. Those who are rolling Boston and Baltimore. The class of persons who would in wealth, and care nothing for the extra expense--and be particularly benefited by it would be the specula. those “neck or nothing" men who, in all their transactors. It would be lending the aid of the Government to tions, are willing to incur extraordinary expenses in the speculators, and those who are not content to pursue expectation of reaping extraordinary profits; in wbich business in the regular ordinary mode. It is well known case it will be perceived that, in most of the sales and that there is a class of men in all our large cities, who purchases in our commercial cities, particularly in regard devote themselves (or many of them) to no regular call- to country retailers, one party would be acting upon in. ing, but who are constantly on the watch, to avail them. formation obtained by the express mail, not possessed selves of the fluctuations of the market, to speculate out by the other. The wholesale dealer might know preof those who are quietly pursuing their business with cisely when it would be for his interest to yield a little habits of industry and frugality, content with their gains, in his demands, and when to persist in his demands for which, though slowly, are honestly acquired, and which an exorbitant price. The operations, therefore, of this will be likely to endure. If, for instance, on an arrival mail would be unequal. In practice, whatever it may from abroad, bringing information of a great rise in the purport to be on the face, it would be conferring adprice of any particular article, or such information as vantages on one class to the injury of another. Enterrenders it probable that there will be a scarcity of any taining these views, sir, I feel bound, said Mr. F., to opparticular article, these speculators, by means of agents, | pose the concurrence of the House with the Committee immediately buy up and monopolize all of that article of the Whole in adopting the proposed amendment. there is in the country, after which they sell back Mr. HARPER opposed the motion, and went on to again to the people, at prices affording to the specula- show that an express, established by law, would be the tors enormous profits. And these are the men who are surest safeguard against the impositions of the speculators. to be particularly benefited by the proposed express Mr. PARKER moved to strike out the words “on mail. Take for illustration a case similar to the one als horseback;" agreed to. luded to a few days since, though for another purpose,

The section, as amended, was then concurred in: by the chairman of the committee who reported this bill. Ayes 85, noes 38. Suppose that, by an arrival at New York from Liver. Mr. HOWARD moved to non-concur in the following pool, information is obtained of a great and sudden rise amendment of the Committee of the Whole: in the price of cotton. Thereupon the speculators im- “Seç. 44. And be it further enacted, That the Postmasmediately despalch instructions to their agents at the ter General shall be authorized to contract for the trans. South, through the express mail, and cause the whole portation of the mail on railroads by the most expeditious crops of the planters to be purchased up at prices far means: Provided he shall be enabled to do so for a below wbat might have been obtained, if the owners of price not exceeding double that which is usually paid for the cotton had been aware of the facts, and information equal freight, on the average, on such railroads, on ordi. of the state of the market had been communicated by nary merchandise." the regular and ordinary mail. Here, the profits on the Mr. H. called the attention of the House to the fact cotton would not go into the pockets of him who had that the section gave less than was offered by the Post. raised it by the sweat of his brow, but into the pockets master General. of the prowling speculator, who lives upon the industry Mr. HAWES hoped the House would concur, so that of others. It is for the benefit of this class of men that the Postmaster General might be so limited as to prethe express mail will be established. I know it may vent the Government from being imposed upon. He be said that this express mail will be open and free for hoped so, also, for the reason assigned by the gentleman every one who chooses to avail himself of it, and that from Maryland, because the Postmaster General offered the planter, in the case supposed, can procure informa- too much. tion by means of it, as early as the speculator or his Mr. BOULDIN said he would vote for this or any agents. This is all plausible enough in theory; but how other check that could be put on the monopoly of these would it be practically? The speculator is constantly railroads. Should a connexion of these railroads and upon the alert, and immediately upon the receipt of in- steam conveyances be made between New Orleans and formation affecting materially the price of any article, New York, and the combinations be formed wbich the say cotton, he despatches instructions to his partners or gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. ANTHONY) had sugagents. But will the planter have in all the commercial I gested, we should be perfectly at the command, and un.

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der the thumb, of these companies. They would bave Mr. HAYNES asked for the yeas and nays; which the command of the commerce of the whole Union. were ordered. They would not carry the mail for millions a year, be. The House refused to lay the motion on the table: cause they could speculate on the market, and no pri- | Yeas 81, nays 99. vale conveyance could compete with them. To make Mr. HIESTER then asked for the yeas and nays on a parallel rail and steamboat route would cost immense the motion to suspend the rules; which were not order. sums; and, from the opinions of the Southern politicians, ed, and the motion was decided in the negative: Ayes could not be made. Mr. B. said he would therefore 84, noes 81; not two thirds. throw every obstacle in his power in their way, and give

ABOLITION REPORT. no encouragement to them, until it should be understood distinctly, in every case, upon what terms they would Mr. HUNT asked leave of the House to make a state. carry the mail.

He knew he could not break up the ment on a subject in which he was personally concerned, present railoads; but he would now inform them, that and which was of deep and vital importance to this by his vote they could get no encouragement, without it country. being first understood upon wbat terms the mail would Objections being made, be carried. It made no great odds whether intelligence Mr. HUNT moved the suspension of the rules, for be carried in one day or five, provided all get informa. the purpose indicated. He held in his hand, he said, a tion at the same time. But if these monopolies obtain document which he had found on his table, since he these privileges, and by steam carry information faster came into the House this morning, and to which he than any private conveyance can carry it, we shall be wished to call the attention of the House. perfectly at their command. Mr. B. would therefore (Cries of " order.”] not encourage them by giving exorbitant prices for car. The SPEAKER put the question on the suspension rying the mail, and would assure them of it by voting for of the rules; when, by the sound, it seemed to be lost. Jimiting the Postmaster General according to the provi- Before the result was announced, the yeas and nays were sion proposed in the bill.

called for and refused. The debate was further continued by Messrs. HOW. Mr. HARDIN asked if it was in order to amend the ARD, ANTHONY, CONNOR, DICKERSON, WARD motion, so as to allow him to make an explanation. He WELL, MANN of New York, PARKER, BELL, had been represented, in a document now on the tables MERCER, McKIM, VANDERPOEL, PEARCE or of members, as having voted for the emancipation of Rhode Island, BRIGGS, JUDSON, MASON of Virginia, slaves in the States, which was utterly false. and THOMAS; when

Mr. PATTON stated that no member of the House, Mr. PARKER moved a further amendment; which after knowing the object of the request, would refuse was negatived.

it. The tables of the House had been covered with Mr. J. Y. MASON moved to strike out the proviso in copies of a document, which members were unwarily the section as reported from the committee; but subse. circulating, containing foul misrepresentations of the quently withdrew the motion.

course of members of this House on a most important Mr. EVERETT moved a substitute for the section; question. which he withdrew.

Mr. CLAIBORNE, of Mississippi, followed Mr. PatThe question was then taken on concurring witb the ton, and said he rose to corroborate the statement of committee in the adoption of the foregoing section, and that gentleman, and to urge the majority in the House determined in the negative: Ayes 60, noes 73.

to give to the member from New York (Mr. Hunt) an Mr. ASH moved that the House adjourn: Ayes 71, oppurtunity to explain. He felt that he himself had noeg 44.

been placed in a position of peculiar delicacy, without The House adjourned.

any fault or connivance of his own. A few days since he had put his name to a paper which was circulating

in this hall, for the printing of the report submitted WEDNESDAY, JUNE 1.

by the select committee on the subject of slavery. Such CONVENTION WITH SPAIN.

papers, proposing the publication of certain documents,

were seen here every day. Who put the one in circuThe act to carry into effect the convention between the lation which Mr. C. had subscribed to he did not know. United States and Spain, returned from the Senate with When he took his seat bere this morning, he found two a resolution declaring that the Senate insisted on their hundred copies of the report on his desk, folded and amendment, and ask a conference, was taken up; and, directed by his amanuensis, and he had put bis frank on

On motion of Mr. ADAMS, the House insisted on them, without being aware of the erroneous statement their disagreement to the Senate's amendment, and they contained. The moment he was apprized of this, agreed to the conference asked by the Senate. The he sent to the post office to recall them, and should committee on the part of the House was ordered to con- commit them to the flames. He bad most unconsciously sist of five.

put his frank upon a falsehood; and the only return in ADDITIONAL PAYMASTERS.

his power to offer, the only evidence be was able to

give of his regret, he would now give, by voting to allow Mr. JOHNSON, of Kentucky, by leave, from the Com- the gentleman from New York to explain, and be in. mittee on Military Affairs, reported a bill from the Sen. voked the House to suspend the rules. ate, providing for the appointment of three additional Mr. PATTON demanded the yeas and nays, and, bepaymasters of the army; read twice and commitied.

ing taken, the motion to suspend the rules was carried: Mr. J. asked ihe consent of the House to make the Yeas 140, nays 36. bill the special order for to-morrow at half past 10 Mr. HUNT said: I return my grateful acknowledg. o'clock; objected to.

ments to the House for the privilege allowed me, by an Mr. HIESTER moved a suspension of the rules, for overwhelming vote, to make an explanation, in a matter the purpose of taking up the joint resolution from the deeply affecting my character as a man and a legislator. Senate, fixing the day of adjournment of the present I regret, sir, to consume any time in a matter more imsession of Congress. Mr. HAWES moved to lay the motion to suspend on

mediately personal to myself; but the House will bear

me witness that I have not often thrown myself upon the table.

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the debates of the session. Sir, after taking my seat growing out of a licentious press, to be redressed; not this morning, and after the business of the House had

upon this floor, but in some other place; but, sir, the commenced, my attention was accidentally called to a events of this morning have, to my mind, connected that publication from the office of the Globe, in pamphlet newspaper attack with the misrepresentations of the form, purporting to be the “ Report of the select com- pamphlet to which I have called ihe attention of the mittee upon the subject of slavery in the District of Co- House; and when gentlemen reflect that this pamphlet lumbia, made by Hon. H. L. PINCKNEY, to the House has gone, under our own frank, to every quarter of this of Representatives, May 18, 1836. To which is append. extended country, they will feel the necessity imposed ed the votes in the House of Representatives upon the upon me of making in my place the explanation I have several resolutions with which the report concludes.” given. This explanation was due to myself, and, more

The first resolution is in the following words, viz: especially, to a family to whom I can hope to leave little

Resolved, That Congress possesses no constitutional else than an unsullied reputation. authority to interfere in any way with the institution of Sir, allow me again to thank the House for their in. slavery in any of the States of this confederacy;" and dulgence, and, having done so, I bave done with this the pamphlet to which I allude goes on to say, “the unpleasant subject. following are the votes on the resolutions at the conclu. Mr. UNDERWOOD asked whether the document bad sion of the report, viz: On the first resolution-Nays been received by order of the House. If so, he should Messrs. Adams, H. Allen, Bailey, Bell, Bond, Bunch, propose resolution declaring it to be erroneous in its G. Chambers, Clark, Everett, Granger, Graves, Gren- statements. nell, H. Hall, Hard, Hardin, Harlan, Hazeltine, Hoar, Some one replied in the negative. Howell, Hunt, Janes, Lawler, Lawrence, L. Lea, Lewis, Mr. A. H. SHEPPERD asked whether the Clerk had Lincoln, Lyon, S. Mason, McKennan, Patton, J. A. furnished the list of yeas and nays for publication. Pearce, Pickens, Rencher, Russell, A. H. Shepperd, The SPEAKER stated that the Clerk, in reply, had Slade, Sprague, Standefer, Steele, Taliaferro, Under- informed him that he was not in the habit of furnishing wood, Vinton, Whittlesey, L. Williams, S. Williams, lists to editors, but that editors had access to the book and Wise-46.

of yeas and pays, and took the lists for themselves. Now, sir, your journals show that, upon this first res. Mr. MERCER asked to what date the printed journal olution, there were nine* only in the negative, and that had been brought down. my name stands recorded in the affirmative. As regards The SPEAKER replied, to the 16th of May. the ranks injustice done other gentlemen, it does not, Mr. A. H. SHEPPERD and Mr. MERCER asked perhaps, behoove me to speak; they are abundantly able | leave to make explanations on the subject; but it was to protect their own reputations; but as regards myself, objected to. I pronounce the publication in question to be either a Mr. GILLET said, if the House would permit him, he gross misrepresentation, or a most palpable and inexcusa. would explain this maiter; but objections were made. ble mistake.

Mr. CLAIBORNE said he felt his reputation involved Were this an error connected with any ordinary topics, in this subject, and he claimed it as a right to make a or with the paltry and evanescent party politics of the statement to the House. day, I should have passed it by in silence; for i stand [Cries of " leave, leave," and " no, no,"] not here to utter philippics against any one, nor do I Mr. CLAIBORNE moved a suspension of the rules court the notoriety growing out of an issue made upon for the purpose. this floor with a newspaper editor. But, sir, this ques. Mr. MERCER moved to amend the motion so as to tion of slavery is one of deep, absorbing, permanent, permit others to make explanations; which motion was, and alarming interest to this country. It will remain, after some confused proceedings, agreed to by a vole of with its momentous consequences to this Government, 91 to 79. long after !he individual who now addresses you, and Mr. PATTON rose, and called the attention of the all those within the sound of his voice, shall have passed House to the fact that the Globe newspaper recently to their graves. Upon such a question, I wish no inis. contained an editorial article making statements equally take in my opinions, however humble their source may as gross and false as those which had been just brought be. They are not the result of the moment, nor inful to the notice of the House. enced by ihe fate of any aspirant for office; but the set. Mr. P. was bere interrupted by calls to order. tled convictions of a judgment which has sought, with The question on the motion to suspend the rules was singleness of purpose, for the truth.

taken by yeas and nays, and negatived: Yeas 98, nays Sir, in charity for human frailty, perhaps I am bound 82; not two thirds. to consider the present error as arising from mistake. I Mr. UNDERWOOD asked the consent of the House Irust it has so arisen, although even thal view cannot to offer a resolution directing the printer to the House soften the harshness of its injustice; for why to a report to publish five thousand copies of the report on the append the yeas and nays growing out of accompanying slavery subject, with the yeas and nays on each of the resolutions? Is not this a most unusual course? At least, resolutions annexed. if editors suppose any purpose is to be answered by such Mr. VANDERPOEL objected, on the ground that it a course, we have a right to hold them strictly responsi- would create a debate. ble for the truth and accuracy of their report. One fur. Mr. McKENNAN asked the gentleman from Kentucky ther remark. In a daily paper, issuing from the Globe to withdraw his motion. He had no idea, he said, of office a few days since, I, with others, was denounced in paying the printer for his blunders. no measured terms for having given a conscientious vote Mr. UNDERWOOD withdrew the proposition. upon a question growing out of this same slavery resolu. Mr. WISE rose simply to request the members who tion. Sir, I felt the editors did me great injustice, yet had received these pamphlets to prevent their circulation. desired not to trouble this House with a private griev. “Yes," "certainly," was responded from every part ance of the kind. I passed it by, as one of the evils of the House.

On motion of Mr. CONNOR, the House then proceed. *The gentlemen who voted in the negative upon the ed to the orders of the day. first resolution were Messrs. SLADE Ports, PHILLIPS, JONES, Jackson of Mass., EVERETT, DENNY, CLARK,

POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT. and Adams.- Note by Mr. H.

The House resumed the bill to change the organiza

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