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wool; the current market value of which, in the United bear, preferred decidedly, he said, that the resolution States, at the time of importation, shall not exceed twelve should go to the Committee of Ways and Means, rather cents per pound.

than to the Committee on Manufactures. He requested Mr. HOFFMAN proposed to amend the resolution by the Clerk to read the resolution referring a portion of the striking out the last clause, from the word indigo. message to the Committee on Manufactures. The resolu.

Mr. McDUFFIE said that the resolution proposed only tion being read as follows: * an inquiry, which did not commit the House; and every Resolved, That so much of the President's message as resolution for an inquiry he thought should be adopted. relates to manufactures and the modification of the tariff, The resolution decides nothing; if it did, he should be be referred to the Committee on Manufactures:" opposed to it: for there was nothing, he thought, so un- Mr. A. said that, having been appointed chairman of wise as to remit the duties on articles of luxury, while the Committee on Manufactures, and being a new member they were retained on articles of necessity.

of the House, he had inquired into the duties of that Mr. HOFFMAN did not, he said, oppose the inquiry; committee. He found it was one of twenty-one standing but he wished to refer the portion of the resolution rela- committees, which were raised at the commencement of tive to wool to the Committee on Manufactures. The every session; but he had been unable to find that any duty limitation in the last clause, he understood to refer only to had been assigned to the committee by the rules of the wool, and he moved to strike out the clause that it might House. Subsequently, on the instance of a gentleman be referred to the Committee on Manufactures.

who was certainly not in favor of the tariff as it existed, Mr. DEARBORN said the limitation was intended to so much of the President's message as relates to the manurefer to wool only. It was well known that we imported tures and the modification of the tariff, was referred to from South America, Smyrna, and the Baltic, wool of a this committee. I will read, said Mr. A., that part of the kind which did not come into competition with the coarsest message which is thus referred: wool which we produced. The price of wool which he “The confidence with which the extinguishment of the referred to, was from one to four cents a pound, and it public debt may be anticipated, presents an opportunity would be introduced and supplied to our manufacturers for carrying into effect more fully the policy in relation to at from nine to twelve.cents a pound. The proposed re-import duties, which has been recommended in my forduction of duty would not effect the agricultural interest, mer messages, A modification of the tariff, which shall while it would benefit the manufacturers of coarse cloths. produce a reduction of our revenue to the wants of the

Mr. HOFFMAN repeated that he made no opposition Government, and an adjustment of the duties on imports to the proposed inquiry, but to the reference of the last with a view to equal justice in relation to all our national clause to the Committee of Ways and Means.

interests, and to the counteraction of foreign policy, so far Mr. DEARBORN was willing to take the course sug- as it may be injurious to those interests, is deemed to be gested, and to modify the resolution so as refer the clause one of the principal objects which demand the considerarespecting wool to the Committee on Manufactures. tion of the present Congress. Justice to the interests of

Mr. CONDICT would ask, before the question was the merchant as well as the manufacturer, requires that taken, for the reading of the resolutions by which these material reductions in the import duties be prospective; subjects had been referred to the Committees on Manu- and unless the present Congress shall dispose of the subfactures and Finance. He believed that the subjects em-ject, the proposed reductions cannot properly be made to braced in the resolutions had already been referred to take effect at the period when the necessity for the reappropriate committees. The resolutions being read, venue arising from present rates shall cease. It is there

The SPEAKER said, that if the subjects had been re- fore desirable that arrangements be adopted at your ferred, the resolution was not in order.

present session to relieve the people from unnecessary Mr. HOFFMAN remarked that the easiest way to dis- taxation, after the extinguislıment of the publie debt.

In pose of the resolution was to pass it; there would then the exercise of that spirit of concession and conciliation be no doubt how much was referred to one, and how which has distinguished the friends of our Union in all much to another committee.

great emergencies, it is believed that this object may be Mr. EVERETT proposed to his colleague to refer the effected without injury to any national interest." entire resolution to the Committee on Manufactures. This passage, Mr. A. continued, thus referred to the

Mr. DEARBORN agreed to modify his resolution Commitiee on Manufactures, contained every thing which accordingly.

relates to the reduction or modification of the tariff: Now Mr. McDUFFIE saw no propriety in the reference of the only question was, whether subjects embraced in the the resolution to the Committee on Manufactures. We resolution had been referred to the Committee on Manucertainly did not manufacture tea, pepper, &c. He moved factures or not; if not, I shall congratulate myself and my that the resolution be laid on the table; which he with colleagues of the committec. drew, at the request of

Mr. McDUFFIE then requested that so much of the Mr. CAMBRELENG, who said that it was highly im. message as was referred to the Committee on Finance be proper, in his opinion, to refer subjects of finance to the read; which was accordingly read. There are two sides to Committee on Manufactures. We were gradually divest- the question, said Mr. McD. To the Committee of Ways ing the Committee on Finance of the powers properly and Means was referred the reduction of duties not affect. belonging to it; and he expressed surprise that the gen- ing manufactures, and the resolution was of this character. tleman from Massachusetts, with all his experience, should Mr. ARCHER said that the modification of the resolupropose this modification.

tion referring it to the Committee on Manufactures, ren. Mr. EVERETT replied, that whatever related to the dered it ridiculous. The motion was wholly inconsistent modification of the tariff, had already been referred to the with the uniform usage of the House. He moved that it Committee on Manufactures. One of the most important be laid on the table. Lost. bearings of the tariff was upon manufactures. The same Mr. HOFFMAN said that the modification which he proreasons which infuenced the House, on the motion of the posed extricated the subject from all difficulty, to wit, the gentleman from Georgia, (Mr. Wayne,) to make this re- reference of the clause respecting wool to the Committee ference to the Committee on Manufactures, would justify on Manufactures, and of the rest to the Committee of the motion now before the House. He felt no disposition Ways and Means. He hoped there would be no further to go into a discussion of this great question at this time, discussion on the subject. nor was he prepared for it.

Mr. WAYNE, having been referred to by two gentlemen Mr. ADAMS, after some remarks which we could not in the discussion, thought it his duty to say a word or two

Dec. 20, 1832.] Breakwater on Lake Champlain.Pay of Army Officers.--Internal Improvements. (H. OF R. in relation to the question. The mover had confound that it was inexpedient to depart from the usual routine ed the duty of different committees. The subject of of business, by making bills of ordinary legislation special finance was proposed to be referred to the Committee on orders. Manufactures. If the Committee on Manufactures were It was ordered that the bill should be referred to a Com. to take cognizance of matters not affecting manufactures, mittee of the Whole House. they would take from the Committee of Ways and Means On the consideration of that part of the motion of Mr. the whole subject. The spirit of the message was this: DRAYTon which proposed to make the bill the special as the present revenue is more than we shall want here- order of the day for the first Wednesday in January, Mr. after, we must reduce the tariff: but did not contemplate TAYLOR, of New York, stated himself to be opposed to so great an enlargement of the duties of the Committee the granting of special orders, a practice which mado on Manufactures. The resolution called on that commit- business of great importance, mingled with that of very tee to decide on the reduction of tea, coffee, &c., and au- little importance, accumulate in a manner highly prejudithorized them to say to the treasury, your revenue may be cial to the necessary despatch of public business. He reduced so much. It is true that the Committee on Manu- suggested to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. factures might not take this course. Without meaning Drayton) the propriety of modifying his motion, so that any compliment to the chairman of that committee, his the bill might be referred to the Committee of the whole belief was, that he would take no course affecting the on the state of the Union, and then he might move whenduties of other committees, but it was contrary to parlia- ever he pleased for the consideration of the bill in question. mentary rule to give more power to a committee than pro- On the original motion being lost, Mr. DRAYTON acted perly belonged to it. The action of the Committee on on the suggestion of Mr. Taylor, and the bill was refer. Manufactures would be no way impeded by this restric- red to the Committee of the Whole on the state of the tion. When the Committee of Ways and Means had re- Union. ported, its recommendations would be the subject of

DUTY ON TEAS, &c. discussion. Mr. BATES rose to speak, but the SPEAKER re offered yesterday by Mr. DEARBORN.

The House resumed the consideration of the resolution minded him that the hour for the consideration of resolutions had expired.

Mr. DEARBORN rose, and said that, when he had moved this inquiry, he had no idea of its giving rise to a

debate, such as yesterday arose upon the form of it. De. TUESDAY, DECEMBER 20.

sirous to save the time of the House, reserving to himself BREAKWATER ON LAKE CHAMPLAIN.

he privilege of introducing his proposition at a future Among the petitions presented to-day, was one by Mr. time, in this or some other shape, he now withdrew the HOGAN, of New York, asking from Congress an appro- resolution. priation for the formation of a breakwater on Lake Cham

INTERNAL IMPROVEMENTS. plain. Mr. H. moved to refer it to the Committee on

Mr. PEARCE moved the following resolution: Commerce. He thought such would be the proper reference, since the establishment of the breakwater prayed structed to inquire into the expediency of making an ap

Resolved, that the Committee on Commerce be in. for would, undoubtedly, produce salutary effects on the propriation to defray the expense of a survey of the commerce; and, as a certain result therefrom, on the creek leading from the ocean into the large pond on the manufactures of the country,

west end of the island of Block island, for the purpose Mr. DODDRIDGE, of Virginia, thought that this sub- of so far extending the width and deepening said creek ject should be referred to the Committee on Internal Im: as to admit vessels to pass through the same to said pond, provements, if it were intended to refer any question at and thereby afford a safe and commodious harbor to the all to that committee.

navigation of the country. Mr. JEWETT thought the petition ought to be refer

This resolution being read, red to the Committee on Commerce, because its prayer was one of vital interest to that branch of national industry. ing out “Committee on Commerce," and inserting “Com

Mr. DODDRIDGE moved to amend the same by strikMr. MERCER, of Virginia, appealed to the good sense mittee on Internal Improvements. of the House, if the petition ought not to be referred to the Committee on Internal Improvements, and hoped his before the House in preceding sessions; it had been re

Mr. PEARCE said the very same measure had been friend from Virginia (Mr. DODDRIDGE] would offer a reso- ferred to the Committee on Commerce, had passed this lution to refer all subjects of a like nature with the House, and been sent to the Senate. The Senate had not petition in question to the Committee on Internal Improve. acted on it, and, therefore, it became necessary to bring ments. The petition was then ordered to be referred to the propriety of committing all matters relative to improving

it again before this House. Much had been said as to the Committee on Internal Improvements.

harbors or rivers to the Committee on Internal Improve. PAY OF ARMY OFFICERS.

ments; but as the improvement proposed related to an Mr. DRAYTON, from the Committee on Military Af island in the Atlantic Ocean, disconnected with the contifairs, reported a bill to regulate the pay, emoluments, and nent, he hoped a distinction might and would be made beallowances of the officers of the army; which bill was twixt this and a measure of internal improvement; that it twice read; when

would be seen to be a measure connected with the inMr. DRAYTON stated that it was highly expedient terest of commerce, and referred accordingly. that a measure similar to that embraced in the bill should Mr. SUTHERLAND said he thought it would be as become a part of the law of the land. The bill did not well to allow this business to go on as heretofore; and, contemplate any interference with the present regulations therefore, he must dissent from the amendment proposed of the army, but was merely intended to have the effect by the honorable gentleman from Virginia, (Mr. Dodof removing an anomaly much complained of, which was DRIDGE.] No one, he was certain, would accuse him of the inequality of pay for equal duties performed at differ being an enemy to internal improvement; buit, for the adent stations. He, therefore, moved that the bill should vantage of the nation, and to save the time of the House, be referred to a Committee of the Whole House, and be he thought this resolution, and all of a like nature, should made the order of the day for the first Wednesday in go to the Committee on Commerce. Almost every proposiJanuary.

tion of this nature had been heretofore submitted to that This was opposed by Mr. McDUFFIE, on the ground committee. For three or four years they had endearored,

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though unsuccessfully, to carry this measure through the possibly, 110 matter how remotely, be construed to relate Senate. It might be said that he belonged to the Com- to the improvement of our commerce with foreign Gomittee on Commerce, and was, therefore, anxious that vernments, was said to be within the scope of the powers these matters should be brought within its jurisdiction. of this Government; but any thing which related to the Such was not the case; but as they had hitherto failed, he promotion of the intercourse betwixt State and Statewas anxious that another opportunity might be given to that was unconstitutional; then the cry was, directly, make the attempt. He had that morning seen a number "hands off.” The House had acted wisely the other day of papers of a similar character, relative to matters which in referring matters relative to rivers, harbors, &c., with had been investigated deeply and attentively in the Com- those of canals and roads, to one committee. He asked mittee on Commerce, but which had never been acted on whether there could be any difference between the forby the Senate. Were the whole of these cases, by a mation of a breakwater near Newcastle, on the Delahasty and inconsiderate motion, to be transferred to a com- ware, and the digging of a canal on the same river, to mittee wholly unacquainted with their merits? Gentle- run from Bristol to Trenton, or, in another direction, to men would see that the only result of such a measure the mouth of the Lehigh. After some further remarks, would be to produce heart-burnings and dissensions in Mr. M. concluded by expressing his hope that this resoluthat House, and disappointments to those without, whose tion would be sent to the Committee on Internal Improvecases were at issue. It had been said, and truly, by the ments. He was willing, though, to come to a sort of comchairman of the Committee on Commerce, that the ma- promise, by leaving to the Committee on Commerce those jority of that committee had yielded to the minority the matters on which they had formerly acted. right of reporting to that House many propositions; it was Mr. BURGES replied. He observed that he was allikewise true that those propositions, with the addition of ways mortified to find himself misunderstood, but he was much light and intelligence in that House, had, by a ma- deeply mortified, indeed, to find himself misunderstood jority, been sent to the Senate. They had failed to carry by his friend from Virginia, (Mr. MERCER,) whose lumitheir measures through that House; and he hoped, inti- nous mind had shed so much of its own light on all quesmately acquainted as they were with these subjects, the tions connected with a subject dear to both of them-House would allow them to try their luck, once more, that of internal improvement. He went on to repeat his through the present session.

former argument, contending that to the Committee on Mr. DODDRIDGE then withdrew his amendment. Commerce belonged the regulation of the matters con

Mr. FOSTER immediately renewed it, by moving to nected with our foreign intercourse, and to that on Inrefer the resolution to the Committee on Internal Improve- ternal Improvements the supervision of works connected ments.

with our inland trade, such as an increase of the facilities Mr. BURGES said he did not rightly understand the of internal communication between the separate States. particular limits of the powers of the respective com- He denied that the illustration of the breakwater and the mittees; but he had always understood thus much, that the canal was correct. There was a wide difference between Committee on Commerce had jurisdiction over subjects a breakwater, which is the means of assisting our foreign connected with such parts of our commerce as related in intercourse, and the canal, which has no direct communicaany way to our intercourse with foreign nations, and that tion with foreign nations, and which is only connected with our home commerce, that which was carried on between foreign eommerce by being the medium of pouring forth the different States of the Union, came within the pro- the surplus of our domestic trade, and directing it into vince of the Committee of Internal Commerce, as having the channel of foreign commerce. The Committee on Incognizance of the medium of its communication in the ternal Improvements had only a relative jurisdiction; whilst, same manner as the Committee on Commerce had jurisdic- in his (Mr. B.'s) opinion, that of the Committee on Comtion in matters connected with foreign commerce, and the merce, in such questions as the present one, was exclusive. mode of communication with foreign countries. If he Mr. FOSTER said he had been extremely gratified had thus taken a right view of the question, the subject of when it was proposed to refer a resolution for the formathe resolution submitted by his colleague certainly apper- tion of a breakwater to the Committee on Internal Imtained to the Committee on Commerce. The place for provements; still more gratified that the House sustained the proposed harbor was not connected with the conti- that proposition. Surely the House would not depart nent of America, and its principal importance was from from its l'ecent conduct in a case so precisely similar. A the benefit it would be to our foreign commerce, although, strange distinction had been made as to the powers of this incidentally, it might also be beneficial to our internal or House in matters of foreign and internal commerce. He coasting trade. Block island was without a harbor on its denied that such a distinction existed. If this House had outer side, but, in its inner one, was a spacious sheet of power in one case, it had in the other. But so far had water, which, by the expenditure of perhaps as little a this erroneous distinction been carried, that many gentle. sum as five thousand dollars, applied to the inprovement men would vote for a measure given to the Committee on of the creek, might be converted into one of the most Commerce, believing it to be then constitutional, who secure and commodious harbors on our coast. Any man would have voted on the other side if the measure had might see, at a glance, that such was not a question of income from the Committee on Internal Improvements, beternal improvement merely; it gave greater facilities lieving in that case it would be unconstitutional. He to our foreign intercourse, and as such belonged to the wished things to be called by their right names: he was Committee on Commerce.

one of those who held that « a rose hy any other name Mr. MERCER said he thought his honorable friend would smell as sweet." from Rhode Island (Mr. BURGES) had founded his distinc. Mr. CAMBRELENG said he was indifferent about the tion betwixt improvements to facilitate internal commerce, fate of the motion; but if the House decided to send this and those to benefit foreign commerce, on a wrong basis. resolution to the Committee on Commerce, it could do no What was meant by internal improvement, was any thing less than reconsider the resolution of his honorable colwhich would promote the interests of trade, no matter league as to the breakwater on Lake Champlain. All he whether internal or foreign. Now, the formation or im- wished was that a line should be drawn in these matters, by provement of a harbor would as much benefit the coast- which the House might abide. ing trade betwixt the different States as it would that The question was then put on Mr. Foster's amend. betwixt this country and a foreign nation. He could dis- ment; which was agreed to-yeas 80, nays 64. cover the reason why gentlemen availed themselves of the The resolution was, therefore, referred to the Comsupposeil distinction. Every improvement which could (mittee on Internal Improvements.

port a bill.

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District of Columbia.--Seneca Indians.


part of the avails of the sale, was vested in the President DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.

of the United States, who, as their trustee, was to invest Mr. CARSON, of North Carolina, moved the following interest accruing from it. This fund was originally in.

this sum to the best advantage, and annually pay them the resolution:

vested in the old Bank of the United States, at a period Resolved, that the Committee for the District of Co- when its stock was considerably above par, and the sum of lumbia be instructed to report a bill to provide for the six thousand dollars, as the product thereof, was annually election of a delegate, in the said District, to the House paid to the Indians, until the expiration of the charter of of Representatives of the United States, with the right to that institution, when the same was again directly placed debate on any question relating to the interests of said in the hands of the President. From time to time, the District. Mr. CAMBRELENG, of New York, said he had no rates of interest, until the year 1826, when it was invested

capital sum was invested in other funds, yielding different objection to an inquiry into the expediency of the mea in the three per cent. stock, which was supposed by the sure proposed, but he was not prepared, without some then President of the United States to be the most judiprevious consideration, to instruct the committee to recious arrangement then practicable. The amount of the Mr. CARSON said he was himself disposed to make which was only $3,385 60, leaving a deficiency of $2,614 40

stock purchased was $112,853, the annual interest of the instruction imperative, for he thought nothing could in the annual sum then before paid to said Indians. be more reasonable than what it proposed. What, he The interest on this sum, annually, was passed to the credit asked, is the situation of the people of this District With of Indian appropriations, and the $6,000 was taken from a population of forty thousand souls--enough to entitle that fund and paid to the Indians. them, if within any State, to a representative on this floor,

This course was pursued until the present Executive they have not even a delegate, as every other territory came into office, in 1829, who thought himself not authohas, to represent their wants and wishes; and any citizen rized by any existing law to pay to the Indians a greater of the District who wishes to bring any business before sum than the actual product of the stock; and the SecreCongress, is obliged to throw himself on the kindness of

tary of War, in his annual report to Congress, in 1829, some one of the representatives of other parts of the stated the facts in relation to this case, and suggested the country, or he has no chance of being heard. Though propriety of an interference of Congress in behalf of the bis conviction of the expediency of this measure was so Indians. Under this recommendation, a law was passed strong, however, to obviate all objection to the reso- at the last session of the last Congress, directing that the lution, he agreed to modify it so as to propose an inquiry Secretary of War should annually, thereafter, pay to said into the expediency of the measure.

Indians $6,000 out of any money in the treasury not otherMr. McDUFFIE thought the whole subject of the in- wise appropriated; that the annual proceeds of said fund ternal administration of the District of Columbia ought to should be invested in the Indian appropriation fund; and undergo a revision. His own opinion was that the District that the sum of $2,614 40 should be paid for the defiought to have a legislative council. It must be perfectly ciency of the last year, (1830,) but making no provision evident to every one that Congress was not the proper for the deficiency of 1829, the year referred to by the body to legislate for it.

Secretary of War', who doubtless supposed that the proMr. CARSON thought that perhaps the expediency of vision would have been made by law during the first, and a legislative council might be already under the considera- before the second session of the last Congress; in which tion of the Committee for the District of Columbia, in

case, the law would have done ample justice to the Inconsequence of the reference to the committee of that part dians. of the President's message which relates to this subject.

Mr. T. further remarked that the Indians could not be Mr. DODDRIDGE, of Virginia, (chairman of the Com-made to understand the cause of this deficiency for 1829, mittee for the District of Columbia,) stated, for the infor- and refused to receive the amount of the product of their mation of the gentleman from South Carolina, that the fund : lune, unless the difference between this and other subject of a legislative council was already under the years could be made up to them; and that the agent had consideration of that committee, and that there was every felt himself impelled to lend his own responsibility to assist desire in the committee to ascertain, from intelligent them in obtaining the money, trusting that Congress, at an sources, what are the wants of the people of the District, early day, would make provision to meet the deficiency; and to do what may be necessary to relieve them from any Mr. T. believed, from the brief statement which he bad inconveniences which they may labor under. Mr. McDUFFIE expressed himself as perfectly satisfied of immediate attention to the subject.

made, the appropriate committee would see the propriety with this explanation; and The resolution of Mr. Carson, as modified, was agreed solutions of inquiry,

After disposing of between sixty and seventy other reto, nem. con.

The House adjourned.
On motion of Mr. TRACY, it was

Resolved, that the Committee on Indian Affairs be in.

Forty-one memorials, sundry reports, and twenty-five structed to inquire into the propriety of passing a law resolutions were presented, and disposed of to-day. Among authorizing the Secretary of War to receive and pay over the last named, was the following: to the Seneca Indians, in the State of New York, the amount of deficiency in the year 1829, of the usual sum

BRIDGE OVER THE OHIO, AT WHEELING. paid over to said Indians.

Mr. DODDRIDGE submitted the following: On offering the resolution, Mr. TRACY remarked that Resolved, That the Committee on Internal Improvements he felt it proper to explain the reasons why he offered the be directed to inquire into the expediency of providing resolution at the present time; particularly as a subject, for the erection of a bridge over the Ohio river, at or near analogous in its nature, was acted upon in the last Con- the town of Wheeling, and that they have leave to report gress. At an early period of this Government, said Mr. by bill or otherwise. T., a treaty was held with the Seneca Indians, in the State Mr. SPEIGHT, of North Carolina, opposed the adopof New York, by which they were authorized to sell a tion of the resolution. He considered it his duty to oppose portion of their lands. By that treaty, the sum of one all similar measures, for it was necessary, in his opinion, hundred thousand dollars, being either the whole or alto defend correct constitutional principles on all occasions,

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General William Hull.--Public Lands.

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be they great or small; and though the present was only tice in other cases, and instanced that of Governor Tompa motion for inquiry, he would, nevertheless, call for the kins, of New York. yeas and nays.

Mr. HOFFMAN said that the case cited would not susMr. DODDRIDGE said that a mere motion for inquiry tain the present, inasmuch as the person alluded to was not was not an occasion to combat for principle. He remark- paid as Governor. ed that it was not then the time to go into the merits of On the question of engrossment, the yeas were thirtythe question, but thus much he would say, the bridge nine, only; nays not counted. So the bill was rejected. proposed would connect the Cumberland road on the (On the following day, this vote was, on motion of Mr. Virginia side of the Ohio, with the continuation of that WICKLIFFE, reconsidered, and the bill was laid on the road on the opposite bank. It was a measure which had table. ] been before Congress for many years, and certainly was The House adjourned to Tuesday, the 27th. one which it would be highly expedient to sanction. To do so would be to realize the grand idea of Thomas Jeffer

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 27. son, for then there would soon be a road from the Atlantic

PUBLIC LANDS. to the Mississippi. A bill on the subject had been report. ed last session, but, from some cause, had not been acted The House resumed the consideration of a resolution

He concluded by observing that the present was not offered by Mr. Blain, of Tennessee, on Thursday last, - the time to go into a discussion on the merits of the great proposing the appointment of a committee "to inquire question of road or no road; but when that time did into the expediency of distributing (according to populaarrive, he would not shrink from defending his views on tion) the proceeds of the public lands amongst the sevethe subject.

ral States and Territories; which distribution, when made, Mr. SPEIGHT, on the suggestion of his colleague, (Mr. shall be expended on works of internal improvement, or Carson,] withdrew his opposition; and

to reimburse money's already expended on such works as The resolution of Mr. DODDRIDGE was agreed to. the Legislature of the respective States shall clirect."

The question being on an amendment proposed by Mr. FRIDAY, DECEMBER 23.

Huxt, of Vermont, who had moved to insert, after the This day was, agreeably to the rule of the House, de- words “expended on such works,” the words, or for voted to the consideration of private bills. Amongst these purposes of education. was the bill allowing to the representatives of the late Mr. VINTON, of Ohio, suggested a substitute for the

resolution, which he thought would meet the views both GENERAL WILLIAM HULL,

of Mr. Blair and Mr. Hunt, and which, being read, pay due him as Governor of the Territory of Michigan. both gentlemen acceded to it. The substitute was as On the question of engrossing this bill,

follows: Mr. WICKLIFFE said that the amount appropriated “That a committee be appointed to inquire into the by the bill would scarcely justify the detention of the expediency of providing a uniform system of gradually House by any discussion of its propriety; but he thought closing up the sale of the public lands now in market, or the principle upon which that appropriation was proposed that may be hereafter brought into market; also, to take might be worthy of some consideration. He understood into consideration the expediency of appropriating the that Governor Hull, after the surrender of Detroit, until proceeds of the public lands, after the payment of the the time of his dismissal from the army, was to be consi- pubéic debt, to the promotion of some national object or dered as Governor of Michigan territory, and his repre objects.” sentatives paid accordingly. Now, could it be maintained This being accepted by Mr. Blair as a substitute for that he was, during that period, performing the office of his resolution, Governor, when there was actually no Government there Mr. DUNCAN, of Illinois, moved to strike out all of but that of the British forces? or did the bill propose so the resolution after the word Resolved, and insert the fol. to pay him, not on account of his services, but merely lowing: because, until the time of his dismissal from the army, he " That the Committee on Public Lands be instruct. had his commission in his pocket?

ed to inquire into the expediency of appropriating one. Mr. WHITTLESEY said it was unnecessary to enter, third of the proceeds of the future sales of the public now, into a discussion of the merits or demerits of General lands to objects of internal improvement within the States Hull's conduct. From the 16th of August, 1812, the in which said lands are sold, and that the same committee date of his surrender of Detroit, up to the time of his inquire into the expediency of appropriating (after the dismissal, on the 1st February, 1813, the Government had national debt is paid) one-third of the proceeds of said paid him his salary as brigadier general, thereby, in a land sales, for the construction of roads and canals, from manner, sanctioning the principle upon which the grant the Mississippi, the Ohio, the lakes, and the St. Lawrence, in this bill had been made. Until the judgment of the to the commercial cities of the Atlantic; and of approcourt against him, which decided on his case, he must be priating the remaining third of said proceeds for purposes considered as having been de facto Governor of Michigan. of education; the works or objects of improvements to In this bill they had proceeded on the legality of the be designated or approved by Congress, and the money to claim, and accorded that which they thought would have be expended under the authority of the States in wbich been given, had it been sought in another way, by the said improvements are made.” verdict of a jury. Proceeding on the same principle, Mr. CARSON, of North Carolina, made a few remarks gentlemen might' theorize, and stop the pay of other offi- to show that the acts of the several States ceding the lands cers, who had been, by circumstances, incapacitated or now owned by the United States, had immoveably settled prevented from fulfilling the duties appertaining to their the manner of distributing among the several states the offices. The committee had been, he believed, unani- proceeds from them, (after the payment of the public mously in favor of this bill, and he hoped the House would debt,) and that Congress could not, by any legislation, sustain their report.

depart from that mode. Mr. HOFFMAN asked whether Governor Hull bad re- Mr. MERCER went into an argument, and referred to ceived payment as brigadier general; and whether he was the acts of cession, also to show that the States which likewise to be paid as Governor de jure, for Governor de ceded the lands to the United States had prescribed the faclo he was not.

application of the proceeds from their sale, after the payMr. WHITTLESEY said that such had been the prac. ment of the public debt, the objects and mode of which

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