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TITLE TO SUBMERGED LANDS BENEATH TIDAL AND

NAVIGABLE WATERS

4.8 Crusrees. Senat, Connitteanti. Judicia..

JOINT HEARINGS

BEFORE THN

COMMITTEES ON THE JUDICIARY
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES

EIGHTIETH CONGRESS

SECOND SESSION

ON

S. 1988 and Similar House Bills

TO CONFIRM AND ESTABLISH THE TITLES OF THE STATES
TO LANDS AND RESOURCES IN AND BENEATH NAVIGABLE
WATERS WITHIN STATE BOUNDARIES AND TO PRO-
VIDE FOR THE USE AND CONTROL OF SAID LANDS AND

RESOURCES

FEBRUARY 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, MARCH 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,

6, 8, 9, 15, 17, AND 18, 1948

Printed for the use of the Committees on the Judiciary

73235

UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE

WASHINGTON : 1948

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· A3 19480

SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

ALEXANDER WILEY, Wisconsin, Chairman WILLIAM LANGER, North Dakota

PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada HOMER FERGUSON, Michigan

HARLEY M. KILGORE, West Virginia CHAPMAN REVERCOMB, West Virginia JAMES 0. EASTLAND, Mississippi L. H. MOORE, Oklahoma

WARREN G. MAGNUSON, Washington FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri

J. WILLIAM FULBRIGHT, Arkansas JOHN SHERMAN COOPER, Kentucky J. HOWARD MCGRATH, Rhode Island

HAROLD R. WILDE, Clerk

SUBCOMMITTEE

E. H. MOORE, Oklahoma, Chairman FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri

PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

EARL C. MICHENER, Michigan, Chairman CHAUNCEY W. REED, Illinois

EMANUEL CELLER, New York JOHN W. GWYNNE, Iowa

FRANCIS E. WALTER, Pennsylvania LOUIS E. GRAHAM, Pennsylvania

SAM HOBBS, Alabama FRANK FELLOWS, Maine

WILLIAM T. BYRNE, New York EARL R. LEWIS, Ohio

ESTES KEFAUVER, Tennessee JOHN JENNINGS, JR., Tennessee

JOSEPH R. BRYSON, South Carolina CLIFFORD P. CASE, New Jersey

FADJO CRAVENS, Arkansas E. WALLACE CHADWICK, Pennsylvania THOMAS J. LANE, Massachusetts ALBERT L. REEVES, JR., Missouri

MARTIN GORSKI, Illinois KENNETH B. KEATING, New York MICHAEL A. FEIGHAN, Ohio EDWARD J. DEVITT, Minnesota

FRANK L. CHELF, Kentucky ELLSWORTH B. FOOTE, Connecticut ED GOSSETT, Texas WILLIAM M. MCCULLOCH, Ohio

C. MURRAY BERNHARDT, Chief Clerk
VELMA SMEDLEY, A88istant Chief Clerk

SUBCOMMITTEE

CHAUNCEY W. REED, Illinois, Chairman JOHN JENNINGS, JR., Tennessee

EMANUEL CELLER, New York
E. WALLACE CHADWICK, Pennsylvania FRANK L. CHELF, Kentucky

ED GOSSETT, Texas
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CONTENTS

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Statement of -

Allen, Hon. A. Leonard, Congressman from Louisiana...

1695

Almond, Hon. J. Lindsay, Jr., Congressman and attorney-general-

elect from the State of Virginia.

1443

American Association of Port Authorities.-

882, 1688
Anderson, Hon. Siguard, attorney general of South Dakota.

358
Arn, Hon. Edward F., attorney general of Kansas..

1246
Barranger, Hon. Kenneth C., a member of the legislature of the
State of Louisiana..

770

Barry, Hon. William F., solicitor general of Tennessee.

291

Beeler, Hon. Roy H., attorney general of Tennessee-

291

Bible, Alan, attorney general of Nevada....

142

Bidwell, Mr. Nathaniel B., special assistant to the attorney general

of Massachusetts...

349, 360, 361

Blue, Hon. Robert D., Governor of State of Iowa..

262

Bobbitt, Mr. Robert Lee, former attorney general of Texas 1074, 1467

Boggs, Hon. Hale, Congressman from the State of Louisiana.

1032

Boykin, Hon. Frank W., Congressman from the State of Alabama. 1366

Bradley, Hon. Willis W., Congressman from the State of California.. 807

Brake. Hon. D. Hale, State treasurer of State of Michigan; chairman

of committee on Interstate Cooperation.

90

Breed, Hon. Arthur H., State senator and chairman of joint interim

committee of California legislature...

219

Brockel, Hon. Harry C., municipal port director, Board of Harbor

Commissioners, City of Milwaukee, Wis.-

279

Statement for Great Lakes Harbor Association.

279

Statement for American association of Port Authorities

884

Brown, Mr. Russell B., Washington, D. C., general counsel, Inde-

pendent Petroleum Association ---

959

Buettner, Philip, principal attorney, office of Judge Advocate General

of the Navy

1108

Burr, Hon. M. Vashti, deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania.. 460, 862
Burwell, Hon. John H., special assistant to the attorney general of
Minnesota..

323

Butler, Hon. Hugh, Senator from the State of Nebraska_

876

Caldwell, Hon. Millard F., Governor of State of Florida

35

Carlson, Hon. Frank, Governor of State of Kansas-

57

Carter, Hon. Oliver J., State senator, Fifth Senatorial District, State

of California. --

371

Chaney, Mr. Donald J., Fish and Wildlife Service

1278

Cherry, Hon. R. Gregg, Governor of State of North Carolina-

193

Clark, Hon. Tom C., Attorney General of the United States. 603, 641

Connally, Hon. Tom, Senator from the State of Texas

1299

Cook, Eugene, attorney general of Georgia.

261

Cooper, Mr. John C., school of economics, Princeton, N. J.

1475

Cordon, Hon. Guy, Senator from the State of Oregon.

1091

D'Amours, Hon. Earnest R., attorney general of New Hampshire --- 227

Daniel, Hon. John M., attorney general of South Carolina -

359

Daniel, Hon. Price, attorney general of Texas --

26, 569, 1096

Davis, Hon. James H., Governor of State of Louisiana

383

Domengeaux, Hon. James, Congressman from Louisiana.

1673

Donelan, Mr. John F., Representing Havemevers & Elder, Inc., and

Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal, New York, N. Y

1281

Harris, Mr. Edward A., Washington correspondent of the

Post-Dispatch.

Hinkley, Hon. H. Lawrence, attorney general of Colorado..

Hobbs, Hon. Sam, Congressman from the State of Alabama

Hoffmaster, Hon. P. J., director of Department of Conse

the State of Michigan..

Hogan, Mr. T. S., Los Angeles, Calif.
Holland, Hon. Spessard L., Senator from the State of Flori
Holm, Hon. Dion R., chief counsel, Public Utilities Commi

and County of San Francisco, Calif..
Howser, Hon. Fred N., attorney general of California

180, 799, 916, 92
Hudson, Hon. Manley 0., former judge of the World Cour

of international law, Harvard University

Hunt, Hon. Lester C., Governor of Wyoming -

Ickes, Harold, Washington, D. C.

Idaho State Chamber of Commerce.

Jackson, Mr. Frank, county superintendent of public scho

Green County, Texas, representing Texas State Teach

tion

James, Hon. Albert W., attorney general of Delaware

Jenkins, Hon. Hugh S., attorney general of Ohio.

Jester, Hon. Beauford H., Governor of State of Texas

Johnson, Hon. Nels G., attorney general of North Dakota

Johnson, Hon. Walter R., attorney general of Nebraska

of submerged lands committee, National Association

General.

Jones, Hon. Homer R., Congressman from the State of W
Jones, Mr. W. Reginald, port attorney for the board of

missioners of the City of Oakland, Calif.; representati

Coast Association of Port Authorities.

Kelly, Mr. Eugene, Washington, D. C.--

Knowland, Hon. William F., Senator from the State of

Krug, Hon. Julius A., Secretary of the Interior

Lane, Hon. William Preston, Jr., Governor of the State o

Statement of-Continued

Page

Larson, Hon. Robert L., attorney general of Iowa -

262

Leary, Mr. George J., special assistant corporation counsel for Boston,
Vass.

348

LeBlanc, Hon. Fred S., attorney general of Louisiana-

384, 774

Leitner, Hon. Sumter, assistant attorney general of Florida.

329

Lewis, Mr. Milton W.

Lewis, Mr. R. F.

1445

Mabry, Hon. Thomas J., Governor of State of New Mexico.

380

Mack, Hon. Russell V., Congressman from the State of Washington. 1441

Madden, Hon. John L., special assistant attorney general of Louisiana. 382

Marsh, Mr. Benjamin C., secretary of People's Lobby, Inc.-

1249
Mattison, Mr. Walter J., city attorney for the city of Milwaukee,

Wis., and representing National Institute of Municipal Law Officers- 913

McBride, Don, Secretary-Manager, National Reclamation Associa-

tion

1694

McCall, Mr. John D., representing American Bar Association.

417

McCarran, Hon. Pat, Senator from the State of Nevada

8

McCarthy, Mr. James J., chairman, Federal legislative committee,

American Title Association...

483

McCulloh, Hon. Clyde, attorney general of New Mexico.

381

McMullan, Hon. Harry, attorney general of North Carolina --

193

Mickelson, Hon. George T., Governor of the State of South Dakota - 358

Moorse, Hon. Wayne, Senator from the State of Oregon.

935

Moule, Hon. Maurice M., assistant attorney general of Michigan. 220

National Water Conservation Conference, Boston, Mass-

1459

Neuner, Hon. George, attorney general of Oregon

936

Nordstrom, Hon. Arthur W., assistant city attorney of the city of Los

Angeles, Calif...

803, 822, 871

Norwood, Gus, executive secretary, Northwest Public Power Associa-
tion, Vancouver, Wash...

1690

O'Conor, Hon. Herbert R., Senator from the State of Maryland..

226

O'Daniel, Hon. W. Lee, Senator from the State of Texas.-

1190

Olds, Hon. Leland, a member of the Federal Power Commission-

850

Parker, Hon. Clifton G., attorney general of Vermont-

370

Partlow, Hon. Ira J., attorney general of West Virginia -

395

Perez, Hon. Leander H., district attorney, Parish of Plaquemines, La. 493

Proctor, Olin S., Long Beach, Calif..

431, 1458

Rago, Hon. Nicholas F., deputy attorney general of Connecticut.- 200

Reed, Hon. Chauncey W.

22

Rees, Hon. Edward H., Congressman from the State of Kansas. 1246

Rice, Hon. Greek L., attorney general of Mississippi.-

175

Russell, Hon. Charles H., Congressman from the State of Nevada. 1468

Sanders, Mr. J. T., legislative counsel, the National Grange, Wash-
ington, DC

1486, 1690

Sether, Hon. Frank 0., assistant commissioner of public lands, State

of Washington.--

151, 1473

Sevier, Hon. Henry C., a member of the Legislature of the State of

Louisiana..

770

Shelley, Mr. Leander I., general counsel, the Port of New York Au-

thority; chairman of law and legislation committee, American Asso-

ciation of Port Authorities...

822, 1688

Smith, Hon. Irving M., city attorney, city of Long Beach, Calif. 775

Stassen, Hon. Harold É

1035

Sturrock, Mr. J. B. general manager of Texas Water Conservation

Association..

1453

Teague, Hon. Olin E., Congressman from State of Texas -

1687

Thompson, M. E., Governor of Georgia -

261
Thurmond, Hon. J. Strom, Governor of State of South Carolina
Tuck, Hon. William M., Governor of State of Virginia.

34
Van Riper, Hon. Walter D., attorney general of New Jersey -

404
Walter, Mr. Orin De Motte, Washington, D. C., attorney for Robeit
E. Lee Jordan et al...

1332, 1392, 1660

Wards, Mr. Lawrence, Island Realty Co.

1438

Warren, Hon. Earl, Governor of State of California.

Watson, Mr. J. Stuart, assistant executive officer, California Stato

Lands Commission.

916

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