TITLE TO SUBMERGED LANDS BENEATH TIDAL AND
NAVIGABLE WATERS
4.8 Crusrees. Senat, Connitteanti. Judicia..
JOINT HEARINGS
COMMITTEES ON THE JUDICIARY
CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES
S. 1988 and Similar House Bills
TO CONFIRM AND ESTABLISH THE TITLES OF THE STATES
TO LANDS AND RESOURCES IN AND BENEATH NAVIGABLE
WATERS WITHIN STATE BOUNDARIES AND TO PRO-
VIDE FOR THE USE AND CONTROL OF SAID LANDS AND
RESOURCES
FEBRUARY 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, MARCH 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
6, 8, 9, 15, 17, AND 18, 1948
Printed for the use of the Committees on the Judiciary
UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1948
SENATE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
ALEXANDER WILEY, Wisconsin, Chairman WILLIAM LANGER, North Dakota
PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada HOMER FERGUSON, Michigan
HARLEY M. KILGORE, West Virginia CHAPMAN REVERCOMB, West Virginia JAMES 0. EASTLAND, Mississippi L. H. MOORE, Oklahoma
WARREN G. MAGNUSON, Washington FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri
J. WILLIAM FULBRIGHT, Arkansas JOHN SHERMAN COOPER, Kentucky J. HOWARD MCGRATH, Rhode Island
HAROLD R. WILDE, Clerk
E. H. MOORE, Oklahoma, Chairman FORREST C. DONNELL, Missouri
PAT MCCARRAN, Nevada
HOUSE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
EARL C. MICHENER, Michigan, Chairman CHAUNCEY W. REED, Illinois
EMANUEL CELLER, New York JOHN W. GWYNNE, Iowa
FRANCIS E. WALTER, Pennsylvania LOUIS E. GRAHAM, Pennsylvania
SAM HOBBS, Alabama FRANK FELLOWS, Maine
WILLIAM T. BYRNE, New York EARL R. LEWIS, Ohio
ESTES KEFAUVER, Tennessee JOHN JENNINGS, JR., Tennessee
JOSEPH R. BRYSON, South Carolina CLIFFORD P. CASE, New Jersey
FADJO CRAVENS, Arkansas E. WALLACE CHADWICK, Pennsylvania THOMAS J. LANE, Massachusetts ALBERT L. REEVES, JR., Missouri
MARTIN GORSKI, Illinois KENNETH B. KEATING, New York MICHAEL A. FEIGHAN, Ohio EDWARD J. DEVITT, Minnesota
FRANK L. CHELF, Kentucky ELLSWORTH B. FOOTE, Connecticut ED GOSSETT, Texas WILLIAM M. MCCULLOCH, Ohio
C. MURRAY BERNHARDT, Chief Clerk
VELMA SMEDLEY, A88istant Chief Clerk
CHAUNCEY W. REED, Illinois, Chairman JOHN JENNINGS, JR., Tennessee
EMANUEL CELLER, New York
E. WALLACE CHADWICK, Pennsylvania FRANK L. CHELF, Kentucky
ED GOSSETT, Texas
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Statement of -
Allen, Hon. A. Leonard, Congressman from Louisiana...
1695
Almond, Hon. J. Lindsay, Jr., Congressman and attorney-general-
elect from the State of Virginia.
1443
American Association of Port Authorities.-
882, 1688
Anderson, Hon. Siguard, attorney general of South Dakota.
358
Arn, Hon. Edward F., attorney general of Kansas..
1246
Barranger, Hon. Kenneth C., a member of the legislature of the
State of Louisiana..
770
Barry, Hon. William F., solicitor general of Tennessee.
291
Beeler, Hon. Roy H., attorney general of Tennessee-
291
Bible, Alan, attorney general of Nevada....
142
Bidwell, Mr. Nathaniel B., special assistant to the attorney general
of Massachusetts...
349, 360, 361
Blue, Hon. Robert D., Governor of State of Iowa..
262
Bobbitt, Mr. Robert Lee, former attorney general of Texas 1074, 1467
Boggs, Hon. Hale, Congressman from the State of Louisiana.
1032
Boykin, Hon. Frank W., Congressman from the State of Alabama. 1366
Bradley, Hon. Willis W., Congressman from the State of California.. 807
Brake. Hon. D. Hale, State treasurer of State of Michigan; chairman
of committee on Interstate Cooperation.
90
Breed, Hon. Arthur H., State senator and chairman of joint interim
committee of California legislature...
219
Brockel, Hon. Harry C., municipal port director, Board of Harbor
Commissioners, City of Milwaukee, Wis.-
279
Statement for Great Lakes Harbor Association.
279
Statement for American association of Port Authorities
884
Brown, Mr. Russell B., Washington, D. C., general counsel, Inde-
pendent Petroleum Association ---
959
Buettner, Philip, principal attorney, office of Judge Advocate General
of the Navy
1108
Burr, Hon. M. Vashti, deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania.. 460, 862
Burwell, Hon. John H., special assistant to the attorney general of
Minnesota..
323
Butler, Hon. Hugh, Senator from the State of Nebraska_
876
Caldwell, Hon. Millard F., Governor of State of Florida
35
Carlson, Hon. Frank, Governor of State of Kansas-
57
Carter, Hon. Oliver J., State senator, Fifth Senatorial District, State
of California. --
371
Chaney, Mr. Donald J., Fish and Wildlife Service
1278
Cherry, Hon. R. Gregg, Governor of State of North Carolina-
193
Clark, Hon. Tom C., Attorney General of the United States. 603, 641
Connally, Hon. Tom, Senator from the State of Texas
1299
Cook, Eugene, attorney general of Georgia.
261
Cooper, Mr. John C., school of economics, Princeton, N. J.
1475
Cordon, Hon. Guy, Senator from the State of Oregon.
1091
D'Amours, Hon. Earnest R., attorney general of New Hampshire --- 227
Daniel, Hon. John M., attorney general of South Carolina -
359
Daniel, Hon. Price, attorney general of Texas --
26, 569, 1096
Davis, Hon. James H., Governor of State of Louisiana
383
Domengeaux, Hon. James, Congressman from Louisiana.
1673
Donelan, Mr. John F., Representing Havemevers & Elder, Inc., and
Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal, New York, N. Y
1281
Statement of Continued
Donnell, Hon. Forrest C., Senator from State of Missouri...
Dow, Mr. Hiram M., Roswell, V. Mex., representing the
Oil Compact Commission.
Ellis, Clyde T., executive manager, National Rural Elect
erative Association..
Farris, Hon. Ralph W., attorney general of Maine-
Federal Power Commission.
Fletcher, Hon. Charles K., Congressman from the State of C
Folsom, Hon. Jim, Governor of State of Alabama.-
Forrestal, Hon. James, Secretary of Defense
Foust, Hon. Cleon H., attorney general of Indiana
Gatchell, Mr. Willard W., attorney for Federal Power Commi
Giles, Hon. Bascom, commissioner of general land office of
of Texas.
Goff, Hon. Abe McGregor, Congressman from the State of
Goldstein, Hon. Nathaniel L., attorney general of New Yor
Grace, Hon. Lucille May, register of State land office, State
ana
Great Lakes Harbor Association
Green, Hon. Dwight, Governor of State of Illinois
Griffith, Mr. Kenneth J., legal representative of the Goveri
State of Alabama
Guy, Mr. David J., Chamber of Commerce of the United St
Hadden, Hon. William L., attorney general of Connecticut
Hallanan, Mr. Walter S., president, Plymouth Oil Co., Pitts!
Hammond, Hon. Hall, attorney general of Maryland...
Harbor commissioners of Long Beach, Calif..
Hardey, Hon. B. A., chairman of State mineral board, State
Harris, Mr. Edward A., Washington correspondent of the
Post-Dispatch.
Hinkley, Hon. H. Lawrence, attorney general of Colorado..
Hobbs, Hon. Sam, Congressman from the State of Alabama
Hoffmaster, Hon. P. J., director of Department of Conse
the State of Michigan..
Hogan, Mr. T. S., Los Angeles, Calif.
Holland, Hon. Spessard L., Senator from the State of Flori
Holm, Hon. Dion R., chief counsel, Public Utilities Commi
and County of San Francisco, Calif..
Howser, Hon. Fred N., attorney general of California
180, 799, 916, 92
Hudson, Hon. Manley 0., former judge of the World Cour
of international law, Harvard University
Hunt, Hon. Lester C., Governor of Wyoming -
Ickes, Harold, Washington, D. C.
Idaho State Chamber of Commerce.
Jackson, Mr. Frank, county superintendent of public scho
Green County, Texas, representing Texas State Teach
tion
James, Hon. Albert W., attorney general of Delaware
Jenkins, Hon. Hugh S., attorney general of Ohio.
Jester, Hon. Beauford H., Governor of State of Texas
Johnson, Hon. Nels G., attorney general of North Dakota
Johnson, Hon. Walter R., attorney general of Nebraska
of submerged lands committee, National Association
General.
Jones, Hon. Homer R., Congressman from the State of W
Jones, Mr. W. Reginald, port attorney for the board of
missioners of the City of Oakland, Calif.; representati
Coast Association of Port Authorities.
Kelly, Mr. Eugene, Washington, D. C.--
Knowland, Hon. William F., Senator from the State of
Krug, Hon. Julius A., Secretary of the Interior
Lane, Hon. William Preston, Jr., Governor of the State o
Statement of-Continued
Page
Larson, Hon. Robert L., attorney general of Iowa -
262
Leary, Mr. George J., special assistant corporation counsel for Boston,
Vass.
348
LeBlanc, Hon. Fred S., attorney general of Louisiana-
384, 774
Leitner, Hon. Sumter, assistant attorney general of Florida.
329
Lewis, Mr. Milton W.
Lewis, Mr. R. F.
1445
Mabry, Hon. Thomas J., Governor of State of New Mexico.
380
Mack, Hon. Russell V., Congressman from the State of Washington. 1441
Madden, Hon. John L., special assistant attorney general of Louisiana. 382
Marsh, Mr. Benjamin C., secretary of People's Lobby, Inc.-
1249
Mattison, Mr. Walter J., city attorney for the city of Milwaukee,
Wis., and representing National Institute of Municipal Law Officers- 913
McBride, Don, Secretary-Manager, National Reclamation Associa-
tion
1694
McCall, Mr. John D., representing American Bar Association.
417
McCarran, Hon. Pat, Senator from the State of Nevada
8
McCarthy, Mr. James J., chairman, Federal legislative committee,
American Title Association...
483
McCulloh, Hon. Clyde, attorney general of New Mexico.
381
McMullan, Hon. Harry, attorney general of North Carolina --
193
Mickelson, Hon. George T., Governor of the State of South Dakota - 358
Moorse, Hon. Wayne, Senator from the State of Oregon.
935
Moule, Hon. Maurice M., assistant attorney general of Michigan. 220
National Water Conservation Conference, Boston, Mass-
1459
Neuner, Hon. George, attorney general of Oregon
936
Nordstrom, Hon. Arthur W., assistant city attorney of the city of Los
Angeles, Calif...
803, 822, 871
Norwood, Gus, executive secretary, Northwest Public Power Associa-
tion, Vancouver, Wash...
1690
O'Conor, Hon. Herbert R., Senator from the State of Maryland..
226
O'Daniel, Hon. W. Lee, Senator from the State of Texas.-
1190
Olds, Hon. Leland, a member of the Federal Power Commission-
850
Parker, Hon. Clifton G., attorney general of Vermont-
370
Partlow, Hon. Ira J., attorney general of West Virginia -
395
Perez, Hon. Leander H., district attorney, Parish of Plaquemines, La. 493
Proctor, Olin S., Long Beach, Calif..
431, 1458
Rago, Hon. Nicholas F., deputy attorney general of Connecticut.- 200
Reed, Hon. Chauncey W.
22
Rees, Hon. Edward H., Congressman from the State of Kansas. 1246
Rice, Hon. Greek L., attorney general of Mississippi.-
175
Russell, Hon. Charles H., Congressman from the State of Nevada. 1468
Sanders, Mr. J. T., legislative counsel, the National Grange, Wash-
ington, DC
1486, 1690
Sether, Hon. Frank 0., assistant commissioner of public lands, State
of Washington.--
151, 1473
Sevier, Hon. Henry C., a member of the Legislature of the State of
Louisiana..
770
Shelley, Mr. Leander I., general counsel, the Port of New York Au-
thority; chairman of law and legislation committee, American Asso-
ciation of Port Authorities...
822, 1688
Smith, Hon. Irving M., city attorney, city of Long Beach, Calif. 775
Stassen, Hon. Harold É
1035
Sturrock, Mr. J. B. general manager of Texas Water Conservation
Association..
1453
Teague, Hon. Olin E., Congressman from State of Texas -
1687
Thompson, M. E., Governor of Georgia -
261
Thurmond, Hon. J. Strom, Governor of State of South Carolina
Tuck, Hon. William M., Governor of State of Virginia.
34
Van Riper, Hon. Walter D., attorney general of New Jersey -
404
Walter, Mr. Orin De Motte, Washington, D. C., attorney for Robeit
E. Lee Jordan et al...
1332, 1392, 1660
Wards, Mr. Lawrence, Island Realty Co.
1438
Warren, Hon. Earl, Governor of State of California.
Watson, Mr. J. Stuart, assistant executive officer, California Stato
Lands Commission.
916
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