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Military Peace Establishment.

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in the District of Columbia, to drain the low have been referred to a Committee of the Whole, it grounds on and near the public reservations, and shall be assigned to the appropriate committee by the to improve and ornament certain parts of such re- Speaker; and unless otherwise specially ordered, shall servations,” reported the same without amendment, be entered on the calandar for the next succeeding and it was ordered to lie on the table.

day. Mr. Floyd submitted the following resolution,

The House having resolved into either of the said viz:

committees, the several subjects referred to it shall be Resolved, That the President of the United States announced by the Chairman, in the order in which be requested to cause to be communicated to this House, in the discretion of the committee, be considered at the

they stand upon the calendar; and any number may, if not injurious to the public good, any letter or com

same sitting. But no subject shall be considered, exmunication which may have been received from Jonathan Russell

, Esquire, one of the Ministers of the cept on the motion of a member, seconded by a majorUnited States, who concluded the Treaty of Ghent, ity of the committee : Provided, That the House may after the signature of that treaty, and which was writ- specially resolve itself into a Committee of the whole, ten in conformity to the indications contained in said upon any subject, which a committee shall previously

have refused to consider. Minister's letter, dated at Ghent, 25th December, 1814.

The resolution was ordered to lie on the table The resolution was ordered to lie on the table one day.

one day.

Mr. Van Wyck moved to take up the motion On motion of Mr. McLane, the Committee of the whole House on the state of the Union, to the Committee of Retrenchment, but the motion

to print five thousand extra copies of the report of which is committed the bill to render permanent was negatived, ayes 59, noes 64. the Naval Peace Establishment of the United

Pursuant to notice, Mr. Cook moved for the States, were discharged from the consideration thereof, and it was recommitted to the Committee consideration of the report of the special commiton Naval Affairs.

tee appointed on the subject of inspecting the The House took up, and proceeded to consider,

Western Land Offices; but the House refused to

consider the same. the bill from the Senate, entitled "An act to abol

Mr. Wright moved that the House proceed to ish the United States trading establishments with the Indian tribes :" Whereupon, it was ordered that the consideration of the bill in relation to the esthe bill be committed to the Committee of the cape of fugitives, slaves, &c.; but, the question whole House to which is committed the bill of being put, Mr. W.s motion was negatived. this House to regulate the intercourse with the In- titles to land in the Territory of Florida, was twice

A bill from the Senate to ascertain claims and dian tribes within the United States and the ter

read and referred. ritories thereof. A motion was made by Mr. Hemphill, that the of the bill in addition to an act to reduce and fix

The House then proceeded to the consideration Committee of the whole House to which is com- the Military Peace Establishment. mitted the bill for the preservation and repair of the Cumberland road, be discharged from the

The question recurred upon concurring with sideration thereof, and that it be committed to the the Committee of the Whole in their amendments Committee of the whole House on the state of the Mr. Tarnall moved that the bill, with the amend

to the bill; but, after a few prefatory remarks, Union; which motion was disagreed to by the House.

ments, be laid on the table—which was agreed to. A message from the Senate informed the House

MILITARY APPROPRIATIONS. that the Senate have passed a bill, entitled "An The House then resolved itself into a Commitact for ascertaining claims and titles to land within tee of the Whole, on the bill making further apthe Territory of Florida ;" in which bill they ask propriations for the military service of the United the concurrence of this House.

States for the year 1822, and for other purposes. Mr. GORHAM's resolution, laid on the table Mr. Cocke 'moved to strike out the appropriayesterday, calling for information respecting the tion for Fort Delaware, but, after a few explanaFrench ship La Pensee, was taken up, and adopted. tory remarks by Mr. Śmith, of Maryland, the

The resolution submitted yesterday by Mr. motion was withdrawn; and the appropriation for MOORE, of Alabama, calling for information re- that fort, and for Forts Washington and Monroe, specting certain transactions in the Huntsville were respectively agreed to. Land Office, was also taken up, and after a few Mr. Chambers moved to strike out the approremarks by MOORE, the same was adopted. priation of $50,000 for Fort Calhoun.

Mr. Rich submitted the following resolution : This motion gave rise to a discussion which

Resolved, That the 69th section of the rules and or- spread into a wide debate, and, after thirty-one ders of the House be expunged, and the following sub- speeches had been made thereon by Messrs. CHAMstituted in lieu thereof, to wit:

BERS, WALWORTH, Floyd, F.Johnson, TRIMBLE, Exclusive of the “Committee of the Whole on the WARFIELD, Cocké, and Colden, in favor of the staie of the Union,” there shall be three committees of motion, and by Messrs. BasseTT, MERCER, Smith, the whole House, to wit: One on bills and other sub- of Maryland, Little, McCoy, Tod, BRECKENjects of a public or general nature ; one on private or RIDGE, POINSETT, Nelson, of Maryland, Wright, local bills; and one on subjects of a local or private Baylies, and SERGEANT, against it, the Commitnature, upon which unfavorable reports shall have tee, before any question was taken thereon, rose been made by a committee ; and when a subject shall I and reported progress, and the House adjourned.


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Military Appropriations.

APRIL, 1822.

FRIDAY, April 19.

made. To encourage the cultivation of the vine Mr. Rankin, from the Committee on the Pub- and olive was the primary object of the grant, and, lic Lands, to which was referred the bill from the without the provision of ibis bill, he believed that Senate, entitled "An act to amend the act grant- object could not be attained. ing the right of pre-emption to certain settlers in

Mr. GILMER moved that the bill be recommitted the State of Louisiana, and for other purposes," to the Committee on the Public Lands. On this reported the same with amendments. The bill motion the merits of the bill were incidentally disand amendments were ordered to lie on the table.cussed by Messrs. GilmERand ALEXANDER SMYTA,

Mr. Smith, of Maryland, from the Committee in favor of the recommitment, and by Messrs. of Ways and Means, to which was referred the Rankin, WalwoRTH, MOORE, of Alabama, Merbill from the Senate, entitled "An act for the CER, and Rhea, in opposition to it. relief of the legal representatives of Greenbury H.

Mr. Cook expressed himself satisfied with the Murphy," reported the same without amendment, explanation that had been given by the gentleman and it was committed to a Committee of the from Mississippi, (Mr. RANKIN,) and hoped the Whole.

bill would be adopted in its present shape. Mr. Floyd's resolution, submitted yesterday,

TI motion for recommitment was negatived; calling for information from the Executive in re- and the bill was finally passed and returned to the lation to the correspondence of Jonathan Russell,

Senate. Esq., Minister of the United States, in concluding

MILITARY APPROPRIATIONS. the Treaty of Ghent, was taken up and adopted. A Message was received from the PRESIDENT

The House then resolved itself into a CommitOF THE UNITED STATES, as follows:

tee of the Whole on the state of the Union, on To the House of Representatives :

the bill making further appropriations for the supI communicate to the House of Representatives port of the Military Establishment of the United copies of sundry papers having relation to the trans

States, for the year 1822. actions in East and West Florida, which have been

The question recurred upon striking out the apreceived at the Department of State since my Message propriation for the erection of Fort Calhoun, on to the two Houses of Congress, of the 28th of January

ihe Chesapeake. last, together with copies of two letters from the Sec

The debate was opened by Mr. Bassett in opretary of State upon the same subject.

position to the motion. He viewed the facts con

JAMES MONROE. nected with the progress of the work, and replied Washington, April 18, 1822.

to the observations made yesterday by the gentleThe Message was ordered to lie on the table.

man from Kentucky, (Mr. TRIMBLE.) He thought The Speaker laid before the House a letter we were not departing from the economy of Jeffrom the Secretary of the Treasury, informing the ferson, but on this subject were following with House that the information called for by the reso- unequal steps the policy which that statesman had lution of this House of the 10th instant, in relation recommended. Hedwelt upon the calamities that 10 the sales of public lands in each of the States might ensue to the country in the result of an unand Territories, and the price at which the same successful naval conflict with an enemy, if we had was sold, cannot be furnished until the next session not fortifications to shelter a retreat, or to afford of Congress; which letter was ordered to lie on protection to our cities, and expatiated at length the table.

upon the peculiar importance and expediency of

the fort in question. THE VINE AND OLIVE.

Mr. Colden made a few remarks on the subThe bill from the Senate supplementary to the ject, which could not be heard by the reporter. act to set apart and dispose of part of the public Mr. Baldwin did not rise to make any remarks lands to encourage the cultivation of the vine and on the subject of the specific appropriation now olive, was read a third time.

proposed, but only to reply to observations of the Mr. Rankin presented a variety of considera- gentleman from Kentucky, (Mr. Hardin,) yestertions in support of the passage of ihe bill, and re- day, and he explained fully and at lengih the plied to inquiries made by Mr. Hill and Mr. circumstances in relation to the alleged excess of WALWORTH.

expenditures over the appropriations of the last Mr. Gilmer opposed the bill, on the ground year. that it enabled the purchasers and occupiers of After a few queries by Mr. Mallary, and an certain parts of the land to hold the same at two explanation by Mr. Bassettdollars per acre, when they were worth forty, and Mr. STERLING, of New York, took the floor, and the residue of ihe lands would be useless to the adverted to the charge made yesterday upon the United States,

Secretary of War, of transcending the appropriaMr. Cook was also opposed to it on the same tions of last year; and upon the First Clerk, of ground, and he added that the individuals who participating in the contract for the works at the entered into the association well understood the Rip Raps, and of injuring the public interest terms of the contract, and there was no good rea- thereby Mr. S. went into a particular examinason why it should be departed from.

tion of the subject, and referred to documents, by Mr. Taylor was in favor of the bill on the which he contended it was fully shown, that, ground that it was necessary to carry into effect instead of transcending the appropriation, the Secthe object for which the grant was originally I retary of War had kept within it by more than

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fifteen thousand dollars. And in respect to the thousand dollars in the report of the Committee of Chief Clerk, Mr. S. remarked that the gentleman Retrenchment. (Mr. COCKE) who made the statement was ap Mr. WHIPPLE (a member of the committee) expointed in 1819 chairman of a committee to inves- plained, and contended that the mistake just pointed tigate the subject, and had shrunk from the task out did not exist. of reporting upon it. Mr. S. contended that the Mr. Rhea expressed his sentiments in favor of contract was fairly made; that the Government the appropriation. tested the expense by experiments; that the own Mr. McDUFFIE rejoined to the remarks of the ers of the quarries were notified and consulted; gentleman from Kentucky, (Mr. Hardin,) and that there were five bidders for the contract; that reviewed the various topics that had been introthe lowest terms were accepted ; and that the duced into the discussion. contractor afterwards refused to extend the con Mr. Hardin replied to the observations of the tract on similar terms.

gentleman from Maryland, (Mr. Smith,) and also Mr. Cocke said, that the statement made by the animadverted upon the remarks of the gentleman gentleman from New York, that the committee from South Carolina, (Mr. McDuffie.) had shrunk from an investigation of the case of Further remarks were made on the subject by Mix's contract, &c., on a former occasion, was not Messrs. Smith of Maryland, F. JONES, Ross, and founded on fact as regarded himself, (Mr. C.) He H. Nelson; when the Committee rose, reported never had shrunk from any duty that he had to progress, and then the House adjourned. perform, and he never would do so.

The committee which had been alluded to, after two sittings, never could be got together again ; which

SATURDAY, April 20. fact, Mr. C. said, he did at the time communicate Ordered, That the Committee on Private Land to the House; and had he known that he could Claims, to which was referred the bill from the have procured an addition to the committee by a Senate, entitled "An act for the relief of the repmotion to that effect, he certainly would have resentatives of John Donnelson, Thomas Carr, applied to the House for that purpose. Mr. C. and others, be discharged from the further conrepeated what he had before stated, that the con- sideration thereof, and that it be referred to the tract in question was made without a previous Committee on the Public Lands. publication of it; that Christopher Vandeventer Qrdered, That the Message of the President of was, when the committee made the investigation, the United States of the 17th instant, communifrom his own acknowledgment, owner of one-half cating a correspondence between the Secretary of of the contract, for which he gave one hundred State and the Ministers of Great Britain and dollars; and Mix and Jennings each owned half Russia, relative to the claims of those Governof the remainder ; and (as he understood from ments, respectively, to certain parts of the northgentlemen in this House, from the State of New west coast of America, be referred to the commitYork) Elijah Mix was not, at the time of making tee appointed on the 10th of December last “to the contract, worth one hundred dollars. And inquire into the expediency of occupying the Mr. C. appealed to those gentlemen for a confir- Columbia river and the territory of the United mation of the fact. From all the circumstances States adjacent thereto; and of regulating the attending the contract, Mr. C. repeated (as he had trade with the Indian tribes.'' before said) he did not believe the Government Mr. Rich gave notice that he should, on Monhad had justice done to it.

day next, call for the consideration of a resolution Mr. Hardin disclaimed having made any charge by him heretofore submitted for altering the rules or accusation on any department, but contended of the House, and he presented the following, that the statements he had made were correct, and which he wished to be subjoined thereto, and that the gentleman from New York (Mr. STER- which lies, of course, one day on the table: LING) had misconceived the propositions he had “ With the exception of the three last weeks of a advanced.

session, bills of a local or private nature, and reports Mr. McDuffie replied at length to the remarks of committees, other than bills, on the like subjects, made yesterday by the gentleman from Kentucky, shall, to the exclusion of other business, (the period (Mr. HARDIN,) and took a wide range of remark, for going into committee having been reached,) be animadverting upon the report of the Retrench- considered on Friday and Saturday in each week, and ment Committee, (so called,) which he contended on no other days: Provided, That this rule shall not was altogether incorrect, and defending the char- prevent the third reading of a bill on any other days, acter and policy of the present Administration, in nor the consideration of any subject upon which a a speech of nearly an hour.

Committee of the Whole shall have made a report. ” Mr. Hardin replied in extenso to the observations Mr. Bassett, from the select committee, apof the gentleman from South Carolina, (Mr. pointed on that subject, reported a bill concerning McDuffie;) and defended the report of the Com- the disbursements of public money; which was mittee of Retrenchment, by reference to a variety twice read, and committed to a Committee of the of documents and estimates.

Whole on the state of the Union. Mr. Smith, of Maryland, made a few further A message from the Senate informed the House observations upon the subject of the proposed ap- that the Senate insist on their disagreement to the propriation, and also pointed out what he deemed amendment proposed by this House to the amendio be an error of five hundred and twenty-one ments of the Senate to the bill from this House,

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Reduction of Pay of Members Military Appropriations. APRIL, 1822. entitled "An act to provide for paying to the State trary; for the best talents in America, since the forof Missouri three per cent. of the net proceeds ari- mation of this Government, have been proud and am. sing from the sale of the public lands within the bitious of a seat in Congress ; besides, money cannot same;" and ask a conference thereon, at which | be the object of any man in accepting a seat in Conthey have appointed managers on their part.

gress. An indemnity is all he can, or ought to expect. Mr. Van Wyck renewed his motion to cause It has been alleged by some that the pay of the mem. five thousand extra copies of the first report of the bers should be so high as to make them entirely indeCommittee on Retrenchment to be printed; but pendent of the influence of Executive patronage. If the question of consideration being put, it was be given-ihat the committee are fearful that eight

ihere be any thing in that argument, this answer may again negatived_ayes 50, noes 60.

dollars a day would not answer the desired purpose. REDUCTION OF PAY OF CONGRESS.

Without going further into the discussion of this ques.

tion, the committee are unanimously of opinion that, Mr. Hardin, from the select committee hereto- in the great and good work of retrenchment, Congress fore appointed on the subject of retrenchment of ought to be the first to set an example to the balance the public expenditure, made a further report of the nation, and begin with themselves. They, thereón, accompanied by a bill.

therefore, to effectuate the objects pointed out in this The report is as follows:

report, submit to the House the accompanying bill. The select committee, to which was referred a res.

MILITARY APPROPRIATIONS. olution directing an inquiry to be made whether any part of the public expenditure can be retrenched with. The House then resolved itself into a Commitout detriment to the public service, and whether there tee of the Whole on the state of the Union, on be any offices or appointments in the Government of the bill making further appropriations for the milthe United States which have become useless and un- itary service of the United States for the year necessary, and can be dispensed with, report, in part, 1822. that, from the best estimate which they can make as

The question recurred upon striking out the to the average expenses of both Houses of Congress, appropriation for the erection of Fort Calhoun

, session to be as long as the session of the Sixteenth on the Chesapeake, and the same was put and

negatived by a large majority. Congress, the same will stand thus, or nearly so :

Mr. BUTLER, of New Hampshire, moved to Pay and mileage of the members - $336,975 90 amend the section by adding thereto a clause proSalaries of clerks, &c.

17,100 00 Salaries of Doorkeepers and Sergeant-at

viding that no part of the appropriation should be

applied on the contract made with Elijah Mix, Arms

9,000 00

on the 25th July, 1818. $363,075 90

Mr. Sawyer was opposed to the proviso, but the reasons which he offered could not be heard

by the reporter. The committee propose to reduce the pay and mileage of the members to six dollars per day, and six dol- amendment. He regarded it as going to declare a

Mr. Smith, of Maryland, also opposed the lars for every twenty miles travel ; also the pay of the dissolution of a contract which Congress had reClerk of the House of Representatives and Secretary of the Senate to $2,000 each, the principal deputy of peatedly affirmed. each'House to $1,500, and the other deputies to $1,200 ;

Mr. BUTLER contended that the contract was the Doorkeepers and their Assistants, and the Ser made in contravention of the laws of the United geant-at-Arms of each House, to six dollars a day, States, and that there was such reason to suspect during the session of Congress ; and to each Door- that there was fraud in the case as would justify keeper, for taking care of that part of the Capitol set us in withholding the appropriation. apart for the use of Congress, $200 in addition. If Mr. Ross opposed the proviso, not only on the the reduction proposed shall be made, it will lessen the ground assumed by the gentleman from Maryexpenditure for the Legislative Department about land, (Mr. Smith,) but also on the principle that, $90,000 annually ; and, after the Seventeenth Con. Congress having recognised the contract, it was gress, the reduction will be equal to near $100,000. now too late to annul it, and he should vote The committee, in proposing to reduce the expenses against the amendment, although he had been of the Legislative Department, are influenced by sev- opposed to the eral considerations. They are decidedly of opinion


Mr. Top also made a few observations on the that nothing can save the nation from a system of subject, when the question was taken, and the internal taxation, but retrenchment in the public ex- motion negatived by a large majority; and the penditures, a return to good old principles, which, for blank was filled as proposed by the Committee of some years past, have been lost sight of. The pay, of Ways and Means. the members of Congress, from the formation of the Government until a few years ago, was what is now

The appropriation for fortifying Mobile Point proposed by the committee, and money is worth as

being under consideration, much now as it had been at any period within the last

Mr. Cocke moved to strike out the section, and twenty or thirty years.

to insert in lieu thereof an appropriation for the It may be objected, that a reduction of the pay of the specific purpose of collecting materials for that members will drive all those who are not wealthy out fortification. The principle on which he preof Congress. To that it may be answered, that the ferred a specific appropriation was, that the money former experiments of the Government in its operation heretofore appropriated for the fortification at Mobefore the compensation was raised, prove the con- I bile Point had not been applied to that object, but

APRIL, 1822.
Military Appropriations.

H. OF R. had been transferred to Colonel Gratiot, at Nor- Virginia, (Mr. Smyth,) in relation to the agency folk, and he referred to documents on the subject. of the Secretary of the Treasury in the transaction

Mr. J. S. JOHNSTON contended that the money alluded to, and which he said was limited to the had been applied to the great object for which it transfer of the money from De Russe to Colonel was appropriated, and he examined with minute- Gratiot. ness the particular circumstances of the case in Mr. JOHNSTON, of Louisiana, had no expectation question. Mr. J. also adverted to the topics that that the contract would be fulfilled by the sureties had been drawn into discussion yesterday, and of Colonel Hawkins, and he thought it most excontended that the question, whether the Secre- pedient to apply the appropriation to the procuretary had assumed an undue responsibility upon ment of materials, which was, in his opinion, the himself or not, ought not to be brought to bear only mode in which the great object was most upon the subject.

likely to be accomplished. Mr. J. was unwilling Mr. Cocke replied, and expressed his dissent to to enter into the expediency of the terms of the the justification of the Secretary of War which contract, because that was a point which should had been urged by the gentleman from Louisiana, be left to those to whom it was by law confided. (Mr. Johnston,) and again reviewed the positions The dangers of climate, and the dearness of prohe had taken on the question.

vision, rendered labor higher at Mobile than in Mr. Smith, of Maryland, explained the facts the State of New York. The power of approin relation to the origin and changes of the con- priation, he contended, was the great moral power tract for building the fortifications at Mobile Point, of this House, and he differed entirely from the and made a general exposition of the subject of gentleman from Virginia (Mr. SMYTH) in respect fortifications, with an historical sketch of the pol- to the expediency of making appropriations speicy that had been pursued for a series of years, in cific. He also contended it was expedient to pretheir erection and extent. He also expressed his vent the competition of the various parts of the acquiesence in the amendment proposed by the Union, which would bring odium and charge of gentleman from Tennessee, (Mr. Cocke,) and inti- partiality upon the Executive officers. mated an opinion that it would be expedient for Mr. Smyth, of Virginia, replied, and contended the United States to abandon the system of erect- that it was improper for the Government to reing their fortifications by contract.

fuse to fulfil the contract, for if the contractors Mr. ALEXANDER Smyth thought the gentleman had violated the contract by non-fulfilment on the from Tennessee (Mr. Cocke,) was mistaken in one hand, the Government had equally violated the facts, and that he had been misled by the simi- it by withholding the stipulated payments on the larity of sums to suppose that a transfer had been other. He also animadverted upon the other topmade of the appropriation for Mobile Point. Mr. ics connected with the discussion. He expressed S. contended that it was incorrect policy to make his willingness even to borrow money for fortifispecific appropriations to fortifications by name. cations, if necessity required it. For institutions Á sum should be designated by Congress for the of a perishable nature, he was not willing to make general object, and the distribution of it should be a charge upon posterity ; but for imperishable fortileft to the Executive Department, and on that de- fications, built of granite, and calculated to last partment the responsibility should rest, for its cor- for eternity, he did not feel that it would be unjust rect and faithful disbursement and application. to tax posterity, as they, as well as the present In reference to the alleged transfer, he remarked generation, were to participate in the benefits and that the Secretary of War was absent at the time security they may afford. the fiscal arrangement was entered into that it The subject was further discussed by Messrs. was done by the President of the United States, Tracy, F.'Johnson, WILLIAMS, of North Carothe Secretary of the Treasury, and the Chief of lina, and Hardin, and opposed by Messrs. H. the Engineer department. The Secretary of War, Nelson, and Cook, when the question was taken, said he, probably approved of it subsequently, but and the amendment was adopted. the responsibility, whatever it was, seemed to rest Mr. PLUMER, of New Hampshire, moved to fill upon the President; but the money he believed the blank with the sum of $30,000 instead of was fairly expended in the public service, and in $50,000, which motion was supported by the pursuance of the act of Congress.

mover and Mr. Cocks, and opposed by Messrs. Mr. Tracy was in favor of the amendment, on MOORE, of Alabama, Johnston, of Louisiana, and the ground that it was equivalent to an expression Smith, of Maryland, when the question was taken of the intention of the House to discontinue the thereon, and carried without a division. contract for building the fortification at Mobile After the appropriation for fortifications at the Point; from which contract he contended the Rigolets, and Chef Menteur, had been carried, United States was fairly absolved, for the work Mr. SERGEANT moved to insert a clause to make was to have been completed in 1821 by the terms an appropriation of $19,000, to complete the Arof it. He also adverted to the items of the con- senal at Frankfort

, Pennsylvania. tract, which he thought fully proved that the con The motion was supported by the mover, and tract was disadvantageous to the Government, and opposed by Mr. Smith, of Maryland, but before he was unwilling to continue it further than a le- any question was taken thereon, the Committee gal liability imposed an obligation.

rose and reported progress, and obtained leave to Mr. Smith, of Marylaŋd, rose to correct what sit again. he thought was an error of the gentleman from The House adjourned.

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