14 Mr. Johnson to Mr. Seward.
Mr. Seward to Sept. 23 Mr. Johnson.
questions, and then to ascertain the dispo- sition of the British government toward the adjustment of the claims by a commis- sion similar to that of 1853.
From the result of his interview with Lord Stanley, is convinced that all differences can be satisfactorily adjusted; but submits the policy of arranging the San Juan and claims matters before the settlement of the naturalization question, if the latter should be delayed by Parliament. Instructs Mr. Johnson, in case he shall be convinced that the naturalization affair will be satisfactorily adjusted, to open con- current negotiations upon the San Juan and claims questions, but not to close the latter until the former convention shall have been completed.
Asks permission to sign claims convention on basis of treaty of 1853. Asks if Alabama claims can be left to arbi- tration of King of Prussia. Has had interview with Mr. Johnson, and explained to him the impracticability of submitting the question of culpability of the British government involved in the Alabama claims to the judgment of a com- mission; also, suggested either the Presi- dent of Switzerland or the King of Prussia as arbiters. Her Majesty's government could not agree to submit the question of. premature recognition, but thought that difficulty might be avoided. Directs Mr. Johnson to insist on claims con- vention like that of 1853, without naming arbiter. That can be done by commissioners. Asks if claims convention can be hastened. Dispatch received. Will try to hasten claims convention.
Hopes to conclude convention on Alabama
and all other claims on basis of treaty of 1853. Lord Stanley is reluctant to leave decision of the questions of international law involved in the Alabama claims to a commission; but will probably consent, provided the selection of an umpire in those cases be left to the government in- stead of to the commissioners. The arbi- trator is not to be restricted, but will con- sider all points involved in the claims.
Oct. 29 Expects to sign claims convention, as in- structed, next week.
Mr. Johnson to Nov. 10 Mr. Seward.
nation, selected by the two governments, who is to decide such of the Alabama and similar claims as the commission do not unanimously agree upon. If the arbitra- tor's decision on any claim be in favor of the United States, the commission are then to adjudicate the amount payable thereon. All questions, upon the decision of which claims may rest, (including that of prema- ture recognition,) may be raised before the commissioners or arbitrator. Each govern- ment is to be represented before the com- mission by an agent. All claims must be presented within nine months after first meeting of commission, and decided within two years. The correspondence and evi- dence now in possession of each govern- ment are alone to be considered in the de- cision of the Alabama claims, unless fur- ther argument or evidence be called for by the commissioners or arbitrator. The de- cision is to be conclusive. No claims aris- ing prior to July 26, 1853, are to be con- sidered. All awards are to be paid in coin, or its equivalent. Most of the evidence be- ing in England, the commission is to sit in London.
Incloses copy of claims protocol just signed 705 with Mr. Johnson.
Not received claims protocol. Commission must sit in Washington.
Nov. 12 Will try to have commission sit in Washing- 706 ton, but from previous instructions thought it unimportant, as all the proof is in Eng- land and arbitrator will probably be European; London is better.
In view of highly disturbed national sensi- bilities, commission must sit in Washing- ton. Had received no instructions to insist upon Washington as the place for the commis- sion, and referring to No. 375 to Mr. Adams, concluded it was not regarded as important, as proof in Alabama claims is all in Eng- land, and as the umpire will probably be European, London was thought the bet- ter place. Will try, however, to have the change made.
Has reason to believe Washington will be agreed to.
Incloses additional article to claims conven- tion, changing place for sitting of the com- mission from London to Washington. Transmits copies of additional article to claims convention.
Nov. 27 Proposes amendments to the claims proto- 709 col which are considered essential. The commissioners appointed by the President must be confirmed by the Senate. Wash- ington must be substituted for London.
Provisions for separate consideration of the Alabama claims must be stricken out. If these changes are agreed to, Mr. Johnson is instructed to sign this and the San Juan convention. Has received No. 49 with inclosed convention; recounts its provisions, and states the grounds of objection to Articles IV and V to be their discrimination against the Alabama claims in requiring the commissioners to agree unanimously upon them, and in stipulating that the arbitrator shall be previously chosen by the two powers, and shall be the head of a friendly government. Article VI, prohibiting argument upon the Alabama claims, is also objectionable. No such provisions were made in the treaty of 1853, on which this convention was to have been based. Mr. Seward incloses copy of the convention altered to meet these and other minor objections, and says that its character is not thereby materially changed, but that these amendments are deemed necessary to insure its ratification. Mr. Johnson is instructed to say that his government, in assenting by telegraph to the convention, supposed the treaty of 1853 was being more closely followed. In case the changes are agreed to, the convention had better first be made in protocol, and until they are agreed to, the San Juan and naturalization questions should rest in that form.
Has received Mr. Thornton's telegram in 720 reference to objections made by American cabinet to claims convention, and has asked by telegraph for further explanations.
Has received telegram of 26th, and cannot 721 understand the disapproval of the claims convention. Except the provisions in regard to the Alabama claims, it is the same as that of 1853. A satisfactory naturalization treaty is certain. Recounts his interview with Mr. Seward, | 722 and the latter's objections to the claims convention. In providing for separate consideration of the Alabama claims Mr. Johnson had exceeded his instructions. It was suggested that Mr. Thornton should go to England to explain matters. Should the amendments proposed by Mr. Seward be accepted and embodied in a protocol, however, the Senate would undoubtedly assent to its ratification.
Has received telegram of November 27. Lord Stanley had no objection to most of the proposed changes in the claims convention, but thought the magnitude of the questions involved in the Alabama claims demanded that the arbitrator should be the head of a friendly government, and that he should be appointed by the two powers.
Not thinking it inconsistent with his in- structions, or with the treaty of 1853, Mr. Johnson had incorporated this provision. The alteration may be acceded to by the new ministry.
7 Has received No. 61, with additional article to claims convention, changing the place for sitting of the commission to Washing- ton, and approves Mr. Johnson's proceed- ings in this particular. Without the fur- ther changes proposed, the Senate will not ratify the convention. 8 Is surprised to learn the objections to the claims convention. Incloses memoranda of conversation with Mr. Johnson, from which it appears that the latter had at first suggested the payment of a lump sum of money or the cession of a portion of territory as satisfaction for the Alabama claims, which propositions had been reject- ed. Also, incloses other memoranda and copies of correspondence showing the va- rious stages of the negotiation. Both Mr. Johnson and Lord Stanley had supposed that the final form of the convention was agreeable to the former's instructions, and would be approved by his government. Has received No. 65. The views of the Pres- ident in reference to the claims convention, already expressed, are sustained by the people.
Mr. Seward to Dec. 12 Mr. Johnson.
Mr. Johnson to Dec. 16 Has seen Lord Clarendon, who thought, with 735 Mr. Seward.
Lord Stanley, that the arbitrator in the Alabama claims should be the head of a friendly nation selected by the two gov- crnments. Mr. Johnson hopes to overcome or avoid this objection.
The British government proposes to submit all claims to commissioners, who, if they disagree on any claim, and think it should be referred to a foreign state, are so to re- port to their respective governments, and such an arbitrator is to be selected by said governments within six months. Mr. Sew- ard's other amendments are agreed to.
Dec. 19 Lord Clarendon is anxious for a satisfactory | 736 conclusion of the claims negotiation, and it will be renewed as soon as an answer is received to yesterday's telegram.
20 Has received telegram of the 18th, and pro- poses that the claims commissioners have power to appoint the head of a friendly state as arbitrator upon any claim about which they may disagree, and that in that case they may take instructions from their respective governments; and if such an arbitrator be not agreed upon within six months, the commissioners shall choose an arbitrator by lot, who may or may not be the head of a foreign government. The convention should be in protocol and signed at Washington, though these points are not indispensable. The other amend- ments formerly proposed are renewed.
Mr. Johnson to Mr. Seward.
The Earl of Clar- endon to Mr. Thornton.
Has received telegram of the 20th, and thinks Lord Clarendon will agree to have the arbitrator named by the claims com- missioners under instructions from their governnients, but not appointed by them- selves, as no head of a foreign state would act under such an appointment. Lord Clarendon also objects to the limitation of the time for the selection of an arbitrator, as implying bad faith on the part of the governments. The other amendments, ex- cept those changing the convention into a protocol, and providing for its being signed in Washington, will probably be accepted. Has seen Lord Clarendon again. The cabi- net refuse to convert the claims convention into a protocol and have it signed in Wash- ington, as that would be disrespectful to the late government. They also concur in Lord Clarendon's objections on account of the imputation of bad faith contained in the limitation of the time for choosing an arbiter, and agree that it would be dis- courteous to allow the arbiter, if the head of a nation, to be selected by the commis- sioners. They are willing to stipulate, however, that if any two of the commis- sioners desire to have any claim referred to the head of a friendly state, the two governments, being so advised, shall select such an arbitrator. The cabinet think this provision in strict accordance with the treaty of 1853, and are very anxious to have the matter settled. Mr. Johnson can have the Alabama claims especially included among the claims to be consid- ered by the commission, and thinks it im- portant to do so.
Recounts Mr. Seward's objections to the claims convention, and expresses the will- ingness of her Majesty's government to meet his wishes, and assimilate the con- vention more closely to that of 1853. In- closes memorandum of a convention providing that the governments, on recom- mendation of two or more of the commis- sioners that any claim should be referred to the arbitration of the head of a friendly nation, shall, within six months, appoint such arbitrator, and that his decision shall rule all other claims of the same class. The official correspondence shall be laid before the commission, and any other doc- uments may be produced, and one person heard on behalf of each government. The decision of the commissioners or umpire shall be final. Claims must be presented within nine months from first meeting of commission, and decided within two years, and awards paid within eighteen months thereafter. Her Majesty's government prefer the form of convention to that of protocol, because it will lead to an earlier settlement.
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