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which the chairman said was not in order, and which was not read.

"Mr. Thurman renewed the motion to strike out the third section of Mr. Dromgoole's substitute.

"After an inquiry by Mr. Boyd as to the state of the question, Mr. Thurman inquired whether the chair had announced that the proposition of the gentleman from Alabama [Mr. Houston], to strike out a portion of the third section of the substitute of the gentleman from Virginia, had been carried.

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"The Chairman. The motion was lost.'

"The question was then taken on the motion of Mr. Thurman, and it was rejected.

"Mr. Stephen Adams proposed so to amend Mr. Black's substitute as to add a proviso that the joint resolution should not be so construed as to interfere with the treaty-making power upon the question.

"Mr. M'Gaughey rose to a question of order. The proposition of the gentleman from Virginia was offered as a substitute for the original resolution; so, also, was the substitute of the gentleman from South Carolina. Now Mr. M'Gaughey submitted that there could not be two substitutes entertained at the same time,

"The chairman said he thought the gentleman was correct. The clerk at first had intimated his opinion that the amendment was in order, but he changed his opinion. So the amendment was not in order [i. e., Mr. Adams's amendment].

"Mr. Black. Is not this in order as a substitute?"

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"The Chairman. The proposition now is to strike out the proposition of the gentleman from Virginia, and insert the substitute of the gentleman from South Carolina.'

"Mr. Seaborn Jones said that, if in order, he would move an amendment to the substitute.

"Mr. Biggs was understood to inquire whether the question was on the proposition of the gentleman from South Carolina. "The Chairman. That is the question now before the committee.'

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"Mr. Ashmun. I understood the chairman to rule that that was out of order.'

"The Chairman. 'No. The chair ruled that the amendment of the gentleman from Mississippi [Mr. Adams] was out of order.'

"Mr. Boyd. 'I would like to know whether we are now called upon to vote on the second substitute? Or is it in order to amend it?'

"The Chairman. 'Not at present.'

"Mr. Boyd. 'Will it be in order, if adopted as a substitute for the substitute of the gentleman from Virginia?'

"The Chairman. If the proposition of the gentleman from South Carolina should be voted down, the gentleman can offer a modification.'

"Mr. Boyd. 'Is it in order now to move to strike out and amend?'

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"The Chairman. No; because there is already an amendment to an amendment pending.'

"Mr. Faran read a passage from the Manual having reference to this point.

"Mr. Culver called for the reading of the resolution without the preamble. Read.

"Mr. Fries desired to make an inquiry.

"[Cries for the question.]

"The Chairman. Order. The gentleman will make his inquiry.'

"Mr. Fries. I will, when the committee comes to order. If the committee substitute the amendment of the gentleman from South Carolina for the amendment of the gentleman from Virginia, will it be in the power of the committee to amend it?' "The Chairman. It will not.'

"[Several voices: 'Vote it down, and offer a modification.'] "And the question being then taken, the substitute of Mr. Black was rejected. So the question again recurring on the substitute of Mr. Dromgoole,

"Mr. Boyd moved to amend it by striking out all, and inserting the following:

"Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That the President of the United States cause notice to be given to the government of Great Britain, that the convention between the United States of America and Great Britain concerning the territory on the northwest coast of America, west of the Stony or Rocky Mountains, of the sixth day of August, one thousand eight hundred and twenty-seven, signed at London,

shall be annulled and abrogated twelve months after giving said notice.

"Resolved, That nothing herein contained is intended to interfere with the right and discretion of the proper authorities of the two contracting parties to renew or pursue negotiations for an amicable settlement of the controversy respecting the Oregon Territory."

"Mr. Clarke asked the reading of the amendment to the original resolution. Read.

"Mr. Thomasson rose to a question of order. 'Could the gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. Boyd] offer his proposition as a substitute for both propositions now pending?'

"The Chairman. It is offered only as a substitute for the proposition of the gentleman from Virginia.'

"Mr. M'Gaughey pressed the point of order raised by Mr. Thomasson. The proposition of the gentleman from Virginia was offered as a substitute for the original report from the Committee on Foreign Affairs. This was now offered as a substitute of the other substitute, and could not be in order.?

"The Chairman. No debate is in order.'

"Mr. Boyd. 'I offer it as an amendment. It strikes out all the proposition of the gentleman from Virginia, and substitutes the word "resolved" for the words "be it enacted."

"Mr. C. J. Ingersoll. 'Is the gentleman's proposition divisible?'

"The chairman said it was not, because the gentleman had offered it as a substitute for the whole.

"After an inquiry by Mr. Tredway, the question was taken by tellers, and the vote stood, ayes 110, noes 93. So the amend ment was agreed to.

"The question then recurred on the proposition of Mr. Dromgoole as thus amended.

"On the suggestion of Mr. Boyd, the two propositions were again read.

"Mr. Thomasson asked that his proposition of amendment might be read; because, if the House rejected the present proposition, he should offer his.

"The amendment of Mr. Thomasson was read. It déclares it expedient to annul the convention, and authorizes the President to give the notice at such time as he may deem the public interests require.

"Mr. Jacob Thompson inquired whether the proposition of the gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. Boyd] was susceptible of amendment.

"The chairman said not.

"Mr. Thompson. It is not susceptible of amendment?" "The Chairman. 'It is not.'

"Mr. Thompson. 'Is it susceptible of division?"

"The Chairman. It is not.'

"Mr. Burt desired to know whether, if the proposition of the gentleman from Kentucky should be adopted as a substitute for that of the Committee on Foreign Affairs, it would be subject to amendment.

"The chairman said not.

"Mr. Burt. Is it subject to amendment now?

"The Chairman. 'It is not. It must first be voted down.' "Mr. Burt. 'I beg to understand the chair. The proposition of the gentleman from Kentucky, if I understand, will not be subject to amendment in any event, either now, or if it should be adopted as a substitute?"

"The Chairman. 'It would not be subject to amendment.' "Mr. Burt. Well, sir.'

"Mr. Schenck rose to a point of order. An original resolution, containing a distinct proposition, had come from the Committee on Foreign Affairs. That was amended by the insertion of another distinct proposition. A motion was now made to strike out the whole, and substitute another proposition. He submitted that the distinct proposition on which the committee had voted, and which had been inserted, could not be stricken out, either alone, or in connection with other matter.

"And, to sustain himself on this point of order, he desired to read an extract from the Manual, which the chairman said he would be very happy to hear.

"And the extract having been read, the chairman overruled the point of order.

"Mr. Schenck. I submit that the second resolution is a distinct proposition, not so connected with the other part that a motion to strike out the whole can be entertained.'

"The Chairman. The two resolutions being only a series of resolutions in reference to the same matter, the whole series may be stricken out, although one of the resolutions may have been inserted.'

"Tellers were then appointed, and the vote having been taken, stood ayes 109, noes 94. So the amendment as amended was agreed to.

"Mr. Pettit moved that the committee rise, and report the joint resolution to the House.

"Mr. Cobb submitted a similar motion.

"Mr. E. H. Ewing desired to offer an amendment.

"The Chairman. 'Not in order.

ing now to do but to rise and report.'

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"Mr. Baker. Is there no amendment pending?'

"The Chairman. 'None.'

"Mr. C. J. Ingersoll. I have an amendment I desire to offer.' "The Chairman. No amendment is now in order.'

"Mr. C. J. Ingersoll. "Why?"

"The Chairman. The chair can not enter into a disquisition on the reasons why.'

"The question having been then taken and agreed to, the committee rose, and the chairman reported that the Committee of the Whole on the State of the Union had had under consideration the state of the Union generally, and particularly the joint resolution concerning the Territory of Oregon, and that the committee had instructed him to report the same to the House with one amendment.

"And the question being on concurring with the committee, Mr. Bowlin demanded the previous question.

"Mr. Price not hearing him, remarked that the question had been fully and ably discussed, and he would therefore move the previous question.

"Mr. R. Chapman made an earnest appeal to Mr. Bowlin to withdraw the demand. There were a few members who were very desirous to be heard, and who, for some days past, had been endeavoring to get the floor. He was himself desirous that the subject should be acted on to-day, but why should the question be taken when there was ample time left to hear those who ought to be heard, and had a right to be heard?

"Mr. Bowlin was immovable.

"Mr. Chapman gave notice of his intention to expose the injustice that was done.

"The question on the demand for the previous question was then taken, and there was a second.

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