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granting of the present Contract for the Conveyance of the

Mails from England to Halifax and Boston,” &c.—Amendment,

by leave, withdrawn


July 24. Milbank Prison-Order read-On the Question, “ That the

Speaker do now leave the Chair”—Amendment of Mr. T. Dun-
combe, “ That Mr. Edward Baker's Petition (presented June
12), complaining of certain Abuses existing in the Milbank Pri-
son be referred to a Select Committee”-Amendment negatived
-Division Lists, &c.-House in Committee

Supply-British Museum-A Vote of 45,4061. to defray the Ex-
penses of the British Museum, agreed to

Supply-Navy Estimates—A Vote of 245,1481. for Wages and

Victuals of Seamen, &c., with several other Votes, agreed to 1446

478 V

The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. T. Duncombe's Amendment to

Mr. J. E. Denison's Motion respecting the Poor Removal Bill 98

The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. J. E. Denison's Motion, “ That it

be an Instruction to the Committee on the Poor Removal Bill,

that they have power to make provision for the Establishment

of Union Settlements"


The Ayes and the Noes on the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s

Amendment to the House going into Committee to take into

consideration the Danish Claims


The Not-Contents on the Duke of Buckingham's Amendment to

the Frst Clause of the Corn Importation Bill
The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. Corry's Amendment to the Se-
cond Reading of the Navy Civil Department Bill


The Ayes and the Noes on the Attorney General's Amendment to

the Motion of Sir de Lacy Evans for Second Reading of the

Parliamentary Electors and Freemen Bill


The Ayes and the Noes on Sir R. Inglis's Amendment to the

Postponement of the Preamble of the Roman Catholic Relief Bill 935

The Ayes and the Noes on Sir W. Somerville's Amendment to

the Second Reading of the Protection of Life (Ireland) Bill 1027

The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. S. O'Brien's Amendment to Mr.

Hume's Motion for the Second Reading of the Charitable

Trusts Bill


The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. Wodehouse's Amendment to
House going into Committee on the Poor Removal Bill


The Ayes and the Noes on Lord G. Bentinck's Amendment to fill

up the blank in the first Clause of the Sugar Duties Continu-

ance Bill, with the words “the 5th of July, 1847"


The Ayes and the Noes on Mr. T. Duncombe's Amendment to

House going into Committee respecting Mr. Edward Baker's
Petition relating to the Milbank Prison


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IN THE CABINET, First Lord of the Treasury

Right Hon. Lord Join RUSSELL. Lord Chancellor

Right Hon. Lord COTTENHAM. President of the Council

Most Hon. Marquess of LANSDOWNE. Privy Seal

Right Hon. Earl of Minto. Home Secretary

Right Hon. Sir George GREY. Foreign Secretary

Right Ilon. Viscount PALMERSTON. Colonial Secretary

Right Hon. Earl Grey. Chancellor of the Exchequer

Right Hon. CHARLES Wood. First Lord of the Admiralty

Right Hon. Earl of AUCKLAND. President of the Board of Control

Right Hon. Sir John Cam HOBHOUSE, President of the Board of Trade

Right Hon. Earl of CLARENDON, Paymaster of the Forces

Right Hon, T. B. MACAULAY. Chief Secretary for Ireland

Right Hon. H. LABOUCHERE. Postmaster General

Most Hon. Marquess of CLANRICARDE. Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster

Right Hon. Lord CAMPBELL. Woods and Forests

Right Hon. Viscount MORPETI.

NOT IN THE CABINET. Commander in Chief

Duke of WELLINGTON. Master General of the Ordnance

Most Hon. Marquess of ANGLESEY. Vice-President of the Board of Trado

Right Hon. T. Milner Gibson. Secretary of the Admiralty

H. G. Ward, Esq. Secretary at War

Right Hon. Fox MAULE, Joint Secretaries of the Treasury

J. Parker, Esq. and H. Turnell, Esq. Master of the Mint

Right Hon. R. L. SHEIL.
Secretaries of the Board of Control -

Right Hon. G. S. Byxg, and T. Wyse, Esq.
Under Secretary for the Home Department - Sir W. SOMERVILLE.
Under Secretary for Foreign Affairs

Rigat Hon. E. J. STANLEY.
Under Secretary for the Colonies

BENJAMIN HAwes, Esq. Lords of the Treasury

Viscount Ebrington, The O'Conor Dox, WILLIAM

Gibson Craig, Esq., and Henry Rich, Esq.

Vice-Admiral Sir CHARLES Adam, Rear-Admiral J. W. Lords of the Admiralty

D. DUNDAs, Hon. Captain M. F. BERKELEY, Captain

Lord John Hay, and Hon. W. F. COWPER. Clerk of the Ordnanco

Colonel Hon. G, Anson. Surveyor General of the Ordnance

Colonel Fox. Attorney General

Sir J. JERVIS, Knt. Solicitor General

David Dundas, Esq. Judge-Advocate General

Right Hon. CHARLES BULLER. Lord Advocate of Scotland

Right Hon. ANDREW RUTHERFURD. Solicitor General for Scotland

Tuomas MAITLAND, Esq.

IRELAND. Lord Lieutenant

Right Hon. Earl of BESBOROUGH. Lord Chancellor

Right Hon. MAZIERE BRADY. Attorney General

Right Hon. RICHARD Moore. Solicitor General

JAMES HENRY Monalian, Esq.

QUEEN'S HOUSEHOLD. Lord Chamberlain

Right Hon. Earl SPENCER. Lord Steward

Right Hon. Earl FORTESCUE. Master of the Horse

Duke of NORFOLK. Master of the Buckhounds

Earl GRANVILLE. Vice-Chamberlain

Lord Edward HOWARD. Comptroller of the Household

Lord Artiur Marcus Cecil Hill. Chief Equerry and Clerk Marshal

Lord ALFRED PAGET. Mistress of the Robes

Duchess of SUTHERLAND.

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HOUSE OF LORD'S, Canada on the subject of the Commercial

Policy of Her Majesty's Government; and Thursday, June 4, 1846.

a Copy of any recent Despatches from Lord Mixctes.] Public Bilis.—2 Customs Duties Bill; (Cathcart, as well as of the Addresses Vespunt Hardinge's Annuity; Viscount Hardinge's An- from other bodies in Canada on the same

buity (No. 9); Lord Gough's Annuity. PETITIONS PRESENTED. From Glasgow and Tamworth, subject. in favour of the Com Importation and Customs Duties The Earl of DALHOUSIE trusted Bilk-From Carlisle, and other places, in favour of the Corn Laws.-From Guardians of the Buckingham Union, their Lordships would indulge him for a for the Adoption of a Measure making the Landlords of few moments in making a few remarks on Cottages where the Rents are under £6 liable to the Poor

inatter somewhat personal to himself. It Rates - From a great number of places, against the Chahitable Trusts Bili.—By Lord Campbell, from Dundee and would be in their Lordships' recollection Skveral other places, praying that a Bill

may be passed that, during the discussion upon the second ci sites for Free Churches (Scotland).-From Guardians reading of the Corn Bill, on Thursday night of the Cuckfeld Union, and from several other places, for last, in meeting the arguments which had the Better Observance of, and for the Prevention of the been advanced by several noble Lords with Sale of Intoxicating Liquors on, the Sabbath. From reference to the bearing of that measure on Manchester

, against the Corn Importation and Customs Du colonial interests, he combated the fears tis bill.–From Essex and other places, against the Corn entertained by those noble Lords, and conL#s-From Miss Jane Ashby, of Northiam, Sussex, comDaining of Losses incurred by her from Conscientious

troverted the arguments raised by them Seruples in declining to be Sworn at the Lewes Assizes.- with respect to the sentiments entertained from Wýly, and several other places, against the proposed to that measure; and he quoted an AdBy the Bishop of Lichfield, and Bishop of St. David's, by the colonists themselves with reference Unica of Saint Asaph and Bangor, but in favour of the Appointment of a Bishop to the See of Manchester. dress from the Assembly of Lower Canada,

together with a portion of a despatch bearTIIE CANADIAN ADDRESS.

ing on that Address; and he founded on

should to-morrow move for a Copy of to their Lordships, the statement that the ibe Address of the Ilouse of Assembly of Government had no reason to believe that VOL. LXXXVII. {Series }


the sentiments of the colonists were adverse | possible that he could have been aware, of to the views of Her Majesty's Ministers on its existence. He had applied to the prothe question. He was not about to commit per Office, and found the facts to be simply the irregularity of alluding to what had these. The steamer which brought the taken place out of the House; but if he despatches arrived at Liverpool after their should, by implication, allude to what was Lordships commenced their sitting at halfknown to their Lordships, he trusted, under past five o'clock on Thursday evening. the peculiar circumstances of the case, he The despatches were forwarded by the Post should not be called to order, or be held to Office, and arrived in London after their say anything which could be considered a Lordships closed their sitting at six o'clock breach of order, or offensive to any indivi- in the morning; and were sent to the Colodual. It was, he believed, well known to nial Office in the ordinary course of post, their Lordships, that on the following day at ten o'clock; and he was not aware of the a question was put publicly to the First existence of the Address, the despatch, or Minister of the Crown, which was intro- the mail, until his right hon. Friend the duced by the statement that a question was Vice President of the Board of Trade came about to be put which bore the appearance to him between five and six o'clock, to anof throwing by implication an imputation nounce to him that the question was to be on the character for fairness and truthful- put, and to ask if he was aware of the exness of a Member of the Cabinet, and that istence of the Address. He was aware it that Member of the Cabinet was the Earl was said that persons in town late that of Dalhousie. The question was then put, night were aware of the existence of it; whether at the time he (the Earl of Dal- but he could assure their Lordships in his housie) made that statement with respect place as a Peer, and upon his honour, that to the Address from the House of Assem- he was not aware of its existence. He was bly, he was aware of the existence of an- not aware of the arrival of any mail-he other Address which had subsequently was not aware of the expression of any opinbeen forwarded to this country, and which ion contrary to that which he read as the had at that time arrived ? Now, he con- opinion of the Legislative Assembly, and fessed, and was not ashamed to confess, which he sincerely believed to express fully that he felt deeply wounded by such a ques- and finally the sentiments of the people of tion being put in connection with his name, that Colony. He would not comment at because there was nothing in his past all upon what had taken place. He would conduct, either in their Lordships' House only express his regret, that if it was or out of it, which could justify the impu- thought necessary to put the question, it tation of unfairness or untruthfulness. He was not put by some noble Lord, and to his was aware that the question was coupled face, in that House. He regretted that it with the statement that an explanation had was put at a time when a week must elapse been given by him (the Earl of Dalhousie) before he could take any notice of it in the in private, as at once showed that no such way of debate or comment; and he regretimputation was applicable to him; but he ted that it was not put in the House of could not help feeling that that statement which he was a Member, but that he having gone out uncoupled with any state- should have been left to the defence of ment by himself, or any contradiction on his others instead of to his own vindication. part, must have left on the minds of many He felt it due to their Lordships and to persons in the country an impression that himself to make this explanation, and it was not very clear whether he was aware trusted their Lordships would not think he of the existence of that Address or not. had occupied their time unnecessarily. Now no one could for a moment suppose LORD STANLEY said, that no that it would have been worth his while on who knew his noble Friend would suppose Thursday night to imply that no Address that in whatever terms the question was had been received from Canada, when, if he put in another place, with regard to the had known of its existence, he must also Address, there could be on the part of any have known that it would be produced the human being the slightest intention of next morning; and consequently that the casting the smallest shadow of imputation fact of its omission would have been much on his personal character and honour. He more injurious to his case than if he never himself was not aware that there was any made any allusion at all to an Address from intention of putting the question. He reCanada. He begged to say, that he was ceived the Address by post on the follownot aware, and that it was physically im- ing morning, and saw with some



prise that the question had been put sult from giving the province of Canada in the course of the afternoon, not, how- an inducement to act independently of this ever, as he understood, for the purpose of country with respect to its commercial

poaseertaining whether his noble Friend was licy, and the danger of throwing that procognizant of the existence of the Address vice into too great an intimacy, commerat the time he made his statement, but for cially and politically, with the United the purpose of knowing whether, at the States. He would not say that his appretime the debate closed, Her Majesty's Go- hensions were treated with inattention ; vernment knew that such an Address had but they certainly were treated as been received ? He was quite satisfied founded and chimerical. Their Lordships that not only in their Lordships' Housewere told that the Canadians had no such not only in the other House of Parliament, apprehensions, and no such fears—that the but throughout the country generally, the Canadians were throwing themselves, heart high honour and character of his noble and soul, into the principle of free trade. Friend rendered it unnecessary for him for But, even if that were so, it would not dia single moment to enter upon the excul- minish his apprehension : if Canada, in pation of himself from a charge which, if consequence of our policy, was disposed to it had rested on the slightest foundation, throw herself into the principle of free trade, would not only have involved a gross it was to palliate the evils likely to result breach of public honour, but also of the from our legislation, by separating herself grossest folly. With regard to the regret from her commercial connexion with this expressed by his noble Friend, that the country, and availing herself of the closest question had not been put in their Lord connexion possible with other countries. ships' House, he must have overlooked the He did not say that was a satisfactory ancircumstance that immediately on the close swer, or that it removed the particular apof the debate on Thursday evening their prehensions which he felt. But in the Lordships adjourned, and it was not till course of that very evening—he would not this moment they had met after the recess. say before his noble Friend ceased speakIt was very natural that the arrival of ing—but before twelve hours had elapsed, a despatch of such a nature should excite and before the country were in possession immediate attention, and that it should be of the recorded contradiction of his apprebrought under the notice of Her Majesty's hensions on the part of his noble Friend, Government at the earliest period in an- and his noble Friend opposite, there arother place. As his noble Friend the Un- rived a unanimous Address from the House der Secretary for the Colonies had inti- of Assembly in Canada, verifying his apmated his intention of laying the despatch prehensions with regard to that state of on the Table of the House, perhaps he feeling to the very letter, following his might be excused in making one or two specific objections to the course then taken; observations on the subject of that Ad- and had he acted in concert with them, dress, and the statement made by his noble they could not have more completely echoFriend. He took the liberty, in the obser- ed his sentiments than they did in the Advations which he made to their Lordships dress which he held in his hand, to one or ca the second reading of the Corn Impor- two passages of which he would call their tation Bill, to state his serious apprehen- Lordships' attention. The Ilouse of Assion that the measure would be, in a com- sembly of Lower Canada, one of the most mercial point of view, seriously injurious divided bodies in existence, with the greatto the province of Canada—that it would est variety of interests and of origin, comercite serious discontent there, and cause posed of French Canadians, Anglo-Canagreat irritation. He also pointed out spe- dians, and United States men, much cife effects which he expected to result agitated by political dissensions amongst from the measure. These were the dimi-themselves, had nevertheless come to a unamation of the agricultural prosperity of nimous vote in condemnation of the policy Canada, and the consequent inability of of the British Government. They expressits inhabitants to take our manufactures in ed their apprehension in words which he return—the throwing away of a great por- trusted would not be lost on their Lordships, tion of the capital which, by our assistance, before they were again called upon to give Canada had been induced to lay out on their vote on this important subject. The the improvement of the navigation of the unanimous vote of the House of Assembly St. Lawrence; and he mentioned also the assured Her Majesty that while they have political dangers which were likely to re- seen with feelings of satisfaction the hap

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