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expected to give up some indirect tax when he was minister of a parish in that which was unpopular or inconvenient. The part of the country, much annoyance was tendency of this system of continuing the caused by the assembling of people in the income tax for two or three years only, immediate nelghbourhood of his church to was to go from indirect to direct taxation ; see the carriages of the great people who and he said most earnestly, that a more passed that way, and who were frequently dangerous career could not under any cir- seen adding to the desecration of the Sabcumstances be entered upon. It went bath of which they were guilty by playing upon a false principle, and held out to at cards, to the great injury of the feelings the mass of the people that the rich and of the religiously disposed. By his remonthose who were the holders of property had strances, however, with influential persons, the capacity of paying all the expenses of this evil was, in a great measure, removed; the State. Now, that was not only dan- but it now seemed to be revived with ingerous, but entirely false.

But, as a creased intensity since the establishment further consequence, it led to this fallacy of the railway and the running of trains on —that the taxation on the rich man and that day. He hoped their Lordships would the capitalist could be augmented without interfere to check this evil, and to restrict indirectly affecting the interest of the railway traffic as much as possible to the poor man also ; than which nothing could necessities of commerce. be more erroneous. In conclusion the EARL FITZWILLIAM concurred with noble Lord expressed his warm concurrence the right rev. Prelate in the hope that this in the Bill.

evil would be checked. He was aware of Bill read a second time.

the efforts which he had put forth for the House adjourned.

suppression of the improper behaviour on

Sundays, to which he had alluded, many II OUSE OF LORDS, years ago, and of the success which on that

occasion attended his application to a high Friday, June 5, 1846.

personage and the members of the Jockey Minutes.] Public Bills.—1". Corresponding Societies Club for that object; and he thought him

entitled to the gratitude of their Lordships Reported. Viscount Hardinge's Annuity (No. 2). Petitions PRESENTED. By the Bishop of Durham, from for having moved so energetically in the

Roewen, and other places, for the Better Observance of, matter. and for the Prevention of the Sale of Intoxicating Liquors the right rev. Prelate. He thought there

In one thing he differed from in favour of the Corn Importation Bill and Customs Du- should be no commercial traffic on railways ties Bill.--By the Bishop of London, from Ministers of

on Sundays; that there should be no kind Parishes on the Eastern Counties Line, for the Adoption of a Measure to prevent the Running of Trains on the of traffic permitted which had gain in view. Sabbath. -- From Syderstone, Grimstone, and Great Mas- It might be matter of consideration with singham, against Alteration of the Law of Settlement their Lordships whether it would be advisBromptom Abbotts, and Ross, for Repeal of Lunatics Act able to interfere with railway traffic so far and Lunatic Asylums and Pauper Lunatics Act, so far as as it related to the conveyance of passenrespects the Building and Maintaining County Lunatic Asylums.–From Bangor, and several other places, against gers; but he had no doubt whatever that it the Proposed' Union of St. Asaph and Bangor, but in fa- was the duty of Parliament to stop all comvour of the Appointment of a Bishop to the See of Man. mercial traffic. The necessities of commerce chester.-From the Thetford. Auxiliary Religious Tract meant nothing more than the necessities of Society, for Exemption from the Operation of the Charitable Trusts Bill.

filling our pockets.

The Bishop of LONDON explained, that RAILWAY TRAVELLING ON SUNDAY.

the reason why he did not press for the The Bishop of LONDON presented a abolition of commercial traffic, to which he petition from the Clergymen of Parishes was no doubt disposed, was, that a few on the line of the Eastern Counties Rail- years ago, when he opposed commercial way against railway travelling on Sunday. traffic on Sunday, he was informed by noble The right rev. Prelate stated, that the pe- Lords that to enforce such a thing would tition complained heavily of the great put a stop to the whole trade of the counnumber of persons carried along this line try. on the Sabbath, and instancing Easter Lord BROUGHAM thought it was imSunday last, when crowds of people were possible to draw a distinction between traconveyed for the purpose of attending the velling for gain and merely travelling for Newmarket meeting on the following day, recreation. on which occasion a dreadful accident oc- LORD CAMPBELL was in favour of curred on the railway. For some years, goods traffic being stopped on Sunday, but

and Lecture Roorns.

thought allowance ought to be made for The Duke of RICHMOND concurred in the conrerance of passengers.

what had fallen from the noble Lord, and he LORD BROUGHAM had a case in point trusted that the noble Lord would in Comwhich had just come to his recollection. mittee give the House an opportunity of The Bank of England was saved from in- recording its vote on the subject. He solvency, after the directors had sat from thought that the proposed proceeding was nine till twelve o'clock on Saturday night shabby and mean. He was as anxious as waiting for the means of relief, by the any man to curtail the expenditure of the arrival of a large amount of money next country as far as possible, but he was not day, being the Sabbath.

prepared to give his sanction to what he The matter then dropped.

conceived to be wrong in principle and

shabby in practice. VISCOUNT HARDINGE AND LORD The Earl of RIPON was not surprised

GOUGH'S ANNUITIES BILLS. at the feeling which had been expressed, The EARL of RIPON, in moving that and certainly no generous man could be the House do resolve itself into Committee suspected of a wish to deprive either Lord on Viscount Hardinge's Annuity Bill, Hardinge or Lord Gough of any portion briefly explained its provisions, and those of the rewards which they had earned; but of Lord Gough's Annuity Bill. The he must take the liberty of saying that the grounds for the grants it was needless to motive of the Government in proposing the state after the brilliant services of both limitation was not the mere saving of noble Lords had been so recently detailed 3,0001. a year in the one case, and 1,0001. to the House. The chief point to be men- a year in the other, but was founded upon tioned was, that on account of the genero- a fair consideration of what had occurred sity of the East India Company in granting in former, and might occur in subsequent life annuities to them, the Bills provided cases of this description. Ile was far from that the whole of Viscount Hardinge's an intending to disparage the gallant actions nuity to be granted by this Bill, and one which had been performed; but Governhalf of Lord Gough's, should respectively ment were obliged to look at these services eease to be payable so long as the annui- not as their feelings might dictate, but ties granted by the Company to them re- from views of what had been done before, spectively should be paid.

and what might be done hereafter. LORD MONTEAGLE considered these The MARQUESS of CLANRICARDE Bills to contain a provision which was un- agreed with his noble Friend (Lord Montjust and unbecoming, and likely in future eagle) in thinking that the full amount to be daugerous to the public service, and voted' by Parliament ought to be secured detrimental to the public interests; he to Lord Hardinge and Lord Gough, notalluded to the clause just adverted to, sus- withstanding the grant made by the East pending the grateful benevolence of the India Company: He did not know how far State in consequence of the expressed gra- that House might amend a Money Bill, but titude of the East India Company. This he hoped that his noble Friend would be was teaching the Company a lesson which, able to make some proposition in Commitas men of sense and discretion, they would tee which would have that effect. doubtless learn--that in satisfying their The Earl of WICKLOW thought it own feeling of gratitude they were but would be desirable to postpone the Bill, in causing a pitiful saving to the public Ex- order to give the noble Lord (Lord Ripon) chequer. Would any Minister have pro- an opportunity of producing some precedent posed to treat Nelson so, because he had for it. He should prefer rejecting it to been rewarded by the Neapolitan Govern- passing it in its present shape. Such a ment with the Dukedom of Bronte? What-course would be attended with no inconveever other noble Lords might feel upon the nience ; for, no doubt, another measure, in subject, he (Lord Monteagle) must say that conformity with the universal feeling of he felt it to be a reproach to the Govern- that House, would then be introduced in ment thus to curtail and limit their gift, the other IIouse, during the present Sesand say that because the Company were sion. liberal and grateful, the liberality and gra- The EARL of RIPON observed, that titude of the country should be restricted there was no necessity to postpone the Bill and abridged by that which, in truth, was for the purpose suggested by the noble but an additional proof of the claim of Earl, because there was no precedent of a these distinguished men upon the nation. Minister of the Crown having called on Parliament to grant anything to a Gover-titles which were the reward of their sernor General of India.

vices. The object in view, the mainteThe Earl of GALLOWAY said, that nance of the conferred dignities, was, howthe Sovereign, having conferred dignities ever, already attained by the grant of the and titles on these two distinguished men East India Company, as a reward for their services, it next be- The Committee then divided :-Concame the country to consider what would tents 26 ; Non-contents 38 : Majority put them in a position befitting their new for the Amendment 12. rank. But it appeared that the East India House resumed. Bill reported with Company had already made a grant to them Amendments. Report to be considered greater than that which the Parliament, on Monday next. according to this Bill, thought necessary

House in Committee on Lord Gough's for the purpose. Therefore the object in Annuity Bill. view was attained, and he thought that the The Duke of RICHMOND said he did course taken by the Government was right not see any reason for making a distincand prudent.

tion between the cases of Viscount HarThe House then resolved into Committee dinge and Lord Gough; and he would on the Bill.

therefore move that the third clause in this The Duke of RICHMOND moved, by Bill, which was to the same effect as that way of Amendment, the omission of the just expunged from Lord Hardinge's Bill, third clause, which suspends the grant be omitted. made by the country during the payment

The Earl of RIPON would not give of the grant made by the East India Com- their Lordships the trouble of dividing pany.

upon this Amendment; for he could not The Earl of RIPON reminded their conceive that they were likely to adopt a Lordships that the omission of the clause different principle with respect to Lord would be the loss of the Bill; adding, that Gough to that which they had just sancthe Bill did what the East India Company tioned in the case of Lord Hardinge. could not, viz., it continued the grant of

The CHAIRMAN then put the Question, 3,0001. a-year to the two next heirs of and declared the “ Non-contents' to have Lord Hardinge.

it. The clause was therefore omitted. The Duke of RICHMOND said, that if House resumed. Bill reported. the House of Commons considered this a Money Bill, and would not accept it al

RAILWAY LEGISLATION. tered, nothing could be more easy than for EARL FITZWILLIAM rose for the purthem to introduce a new Bill immediately. pose of introducing the Resolutions on the If he were to go out shooting with the no- subject of railway legislation of which he ble Earl (Ripon), and were to give his had given notice. The noble Earl said that gamekeeper a pound, would the noble Earl their Lordships were aware of the difficuldeduct that pound from his gamekeeper's ties which had been at an earlier period of wages ?

the Session anticipated from the number of The Earl of RIPON said, that if the railway projects which were about to be noble Duke came to shoot with him, he brought forward, and the means which had would take care that he did not give his been adopted with a view to prevent them. gamekeeper a pound.

The number of railway companies disLORD MONTEAGLE supported the solved, in accordance with the powers Amendment. Supposing that the pension which were given to the companies by the had been granted by Parliament, and that measure that Parliament had agreed to, subsequently the East India Company had was exceedingly small—so small as to be granted an annuity, would any one then capable of creating no diminution of the have proposed to bring in a Bill to suspend pressure on the money market; and it the payment of the pension ?

was therefore to be desired that their The Earl of ST. GERMANS held the Lordships should adopt some other course, proposed grant to be for the purpose of calculated to obviate the difficulty which maintaining the dignity conferred by the was anticipated. He held in his hand a Crown; and if Lords Hardinge and Gough return of the Bills then in progress, and had been men of large property, the Go- he found that, if their Lordships should vernment would not have thought them- agree to all the Bills which would be selves justified in calling on Parliament to brought before them this Session, it would make a grant for the maintenance of the require upwards of 90,000,0001. to carry them into effect. He ought to add that read a Second Time, this House will appoint a some of those Bills included in that calcu- Select Committee to take them into Consideration, lation had already passed; but if an allow to classify them according to their public Import

ance, and to select such as it may seem expeance of 10,000,0001. were made for those, dient to pass. there would remain 80,000,0001. of ex- “ 3. That it be an Instruction to the said Compenditure to carry the others into effect, mittee not to select, for passing, Bills by which it in case they were agreed to—a sum the shall be proposed to raise Capital exceeding payment of which was calculated to pro- borrowing Money."

60,000,0001., whether by the issue of Shares or duce an important effect on the money He would remark with respect to this Remarket-an effect which their Lordships might judge of, when he informed them solution, that he would not object to the that the largest loan ever raised during the sum being named as 50,000,0001., if it war was 45,000,0001. in 1815. He had were thought preferable ; but he had been considered the subject, and with a view to

desirous, in framing the Resolution, to suggesting to their Lordships a means of give a large margin. diminishing the evil which such a pressure Commons requesting a Conference on the Subject

“ 4. That a Message be sent to the House of would produce, he had prepared a series of of such Railway Bills as have originated in this Resolutions, which he would read to their House, and are now pending in the House of Lordships. He gave the Government credit Commons." for their intention to prevent the evil of a The effect of these Resolutions, if agreed too great pressure on the money market, in to and acted upon, would be to remove the scheme which they proposed at an much of the evil of too great a pressure, earlier period of the Session ; but that an evil which might be dreaded under the scheme had not been successful in diminish- present system. The noble Earl concluded ing the number of railway speculations to by moving the Resolutions. any extent; and he therefore felt satisfied The Earl of DALHOUSIE said, that that if their Lordships now entertained the however desirable it might be to narrow same opinion with respect to this antici- the limits of railway enterprise in general, pated evil, which they did last March, they which was the object of the noble Earl, would be disposed to try another experi- and however ready he (the Earl of Dalment with a view to avoiding the difficulty; housie) might have been at the commenceand he would add, that if any of their ment of the Session to adopt some resoluLordships proposed a more efficient means tions similar to those proposed by the noof avoiding the difficulty than he (Earl ble Lord, he ventured to represent to the Fitzwilliam) was about to propose, he was House that, under existing circumstances, not so wedded to his own plans as not to and after what had passed both in this withdraw those Resolutions if a better ex- and the other House, they could not, conperiment were suggested. There was no sistently with common justice and fairness, doubt that railway legislation ought to be adopt the recommendation of the noble regarded and dealt with as a whole system, Earl. He (Earl of Dalhousie) might be which, although now in the infancy of its permitted to remind their Lordships of progress, would ultimately become the what had taken place in Parliament in the great means of communication throughout early portion of the Session, with referthe country. A great misfortune was, that ence to this subject. During the very the Railway Bills had up to the present first days of the Session the question of time been dealt with according to an old railway legislation was brought under the technicality as Private Bills, whereas it was consideration of both Houses of Parliahighly desirable that the whole system of ment. The vast number of railway schemes railway legislation should be placed in a projected, and the great amount of capital connected form before them. In order to required to carry them out, were pointed obviate the difficulties which it was feared out; and a Committee was appointed to might arise under the present system, he consider the best means of dealing with hal prepared four Resolutions, which he the subject, which reported to the House. would read to their Lordships :

Their Lordships then adopted certain Re"1. That this House will not pass any Railway solutions; and, with the concurrence of Bill, giving Power to raise Capital, either by the the other House, certain Railway Bills Isue of Shares, or by borrowing Money, which connected with Ireland, and other Bills, has or may come up from the House of Commons the progress of which had been suspended thi. Session, until all such Bills shall have been mai a Second Time.

in the last Session, together with new * 2. That when all such Bills shall have been projects connected with them, were to be VOL. LXXXVII. {Siti

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originated in their Lordships' House. It they would select and they would restrict. had been stated that no specific plan, with To one of the Resolutions submitted to reference to this subject, had been sub-them by the noble Earl opposite, he (the mitted by the Government to the Commit- Earl of Dalhousie) entertained very great tees of either House of Parliament. He objection, namely, to that which recom(Earl of Dalhousie) would not occupy their mended that their Lordships should not Lordships' time by discussing that ques- pass any Railway Bills which proposed to tion; but he might state that a plan was raise an amount exceeding 60,000,0001. submitted in extenso to their Lordships' | He stated on the part of the Government Committee on the part of the Government, at the commencement of the Session, that and received their consideration. At that they were not prepared to say there should time the Committee of the other House be any direct restriction imposed upon railpresented their Report ; in which, after way companies with regard to capital. He stating that there were 562 Railway Bills objected to this Resolution, on the ground standing for consideration, and adverting that if they determined they would not to the arrangements which might be made sanction any railway scheme for which it for their consideration, they proceeded— was proposed to raise an amount exceed“ Under these circumstances your Coming 60,000,0001., they tacitly admitted mittee have not deemed it advisable to re- that a capital of 60,000,0001. might fairly commend to this House to make any selec- and properly be raised for such a purpose. tion from, or to place any limitation on, He thought the House ought to be exthe number of railway schemes to be sub-tremely cautious in dealing with such a mitted to the consideration of Parliament question as this, and that an attempt to during the present Session." Upon this fix any positive limit of capital with regard declaration of opinion the inchoate railway to enterprises of this nature would be atcompanies had proceeded; their Bills had tended with great danger. There was one been for five months under consideration remedy in their Lordships' hands for the in the other House; they had expended evils to which the noble Earl opposite reimmense sums of money; and many of ferred, if they chose to exert it, in the strict them had attained the object they had in and firm exercise of the power of Commitview, and had received the sanction of tees of that House. If the Committees Parliament to their Bills. The other House of that House would do their duty fully, and of Parliament, which possessed the effec- in investigating these railway enterprises tive power in these matters, having dis- wonld not merely consider whether there tinctly declared the opinion he had quoted, were any fatal objections to Bills, but wheand the railway companies having conse-ther it was necessary under the circumquently gone on in the prosecution of their stances of the times that those Bill should several projects, he thought, in common be passed, they possessed the means of fairness and justice, their Lordships could limiting and diminishing, if not of abso not now turn round to the House of Com- lutely preventing the evils to which refermons and

say, • True, you said there ence had been made on this and former ocshould be no selection or restriction, yet casions. He trusted their Lordships would now we will select and we will restrict.” not adopt the Resolutions of the noble Earl. Such a proceeding would really amount, LORD KINNAIRD concurred with the he must say, though he did not wish to noble Earl (Earl Dalhousie), that if their use strong terms, to a breach of faith on Lordships were now to adopt any restricthe part of their Lordships. But their tions with regard to railway projects before Lordships had afforded to the projectors Parliament, after what had passed in the of these schemes another and another locus Legislature, they would be chargeable with poenitentice. They had adopted certain a breach of faith. If the noble Earl (Earl sessional orders, which, though they were Fitzwilliam) had contented himself with not intended to stop the progress of rail- proposing only the first of his four Resoluway enterprise, afforded those who were tions, he (Lord Kinnaird) would have felt anxious to abandon their projects an op- no objection to it, for it could not have portunity of doing so; and their Lordships injured any parties now before their Lordhad since passed a Bill, which was now in ships. By limiting the amount of calls, the other House of Parliament, with the and extending them over a longer space, a same object. It was, therefore, impossible great relief would be given to the labour for them to turn round now upon the pro- market. The Committee at present had jectors of these schemes, and to say that no power of selection; for they felt that if

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