countries, leaving out, of course, any religious leader, is a distinguished gentleman from New York, one John Jay, by name.

The CHAIRMAN. You are now going back to another generation? Mr. SCOTT. Oh, yes. The John Jay who was the Revolutionary

statesman.

The CHAIRMAN. There are some men living now, who might suggest that it is not necessary to go back so far.

Mr. SCOTT. If I might say one word on that. The greatest movement, I think, leading to the peace sentiment, is the habit of submitting disputes, especially of the legal kind-I throw aside the political matters entirely, Mr. Chairman of a legal kind to arbitration, and the man in this modern world who was instrumental in introducing that practice again in international relations was John Jay.

The CHAIRMAN. Have you any opinion to express as to any man among the living who has done the most for his generation for the peace of the world?

Mr. SCOTT. You had better not ask me that question, Senator. The CHAIRMAN. I did not know it would embarrass you personally to that extent.

Mr. SCOTT. No; it does not embarrass me personally.

Senator SIMMONS. I would answer the question if I were you, Mr. Scott. Do so if you can, and if you have a definite view about it. Mr. SCOTT. Well, if you want me to answer the question

The CHAIRMAN. I asked the question, but I do not want to embarrass you.

Mr. SCOTT. It is a difficult thing to single out our contemporaries. The CHAIRMAN. Well, you may do it.

Mr. SCOTT. It is your honorable colleague, the senior Senator from the State of New York.

The CHAIRMAN. You think he has done more than Mr. Carnegie? Mr. SCOTT. In my opinion he has contributed more than any human being to the cause of international peace through the judicial settlement, through the impetus he has given to the judicial settlement of international disputes, and, sir, I would couple him with that great American patriot and statesman, also a citizen of your State, John Jay, as the two Americans in my opinion

The CHAIRMAN. In a word, Mr. Scott, you find that every normal man prays for international peace?

Mr. SCOTT. Of course he does.

The CHAIRMAN. The only difference is as to the methods that some men try to adopt?

Mr. SCOTT. I think so, Mr. Chairman.

The CHAIRMAN. To promote that cause?

Mr. SCOTT. Yes. May I make a direct response to the chairman ? It is rather an individual matter, but perhaps I make my whole attitude on this and toward the peace movement clear by stating that in the year 1898 I was practicing law in Los Angeles, Cal., and on the first call of the President of the United States I gave up the practice of my profession, likewise the position of dean of the law school, and volunteered as a private. I think I owe that statement by virtue of the question you made awhile ago as to what a man should do, or how a man should feel toward his country, and I see nothing incompatible whatever in the peace movement with the love of one's own

country and the stern intention to sacrifice oneself for its well being. in case of need. But personally I hope that that need will not occur very often in the history of the Nation. Now, sir, I have given you all I have.

Senator BRISTOW. Has your society taken any interest in this Colombian treaty?

Mr. SCOTT. No, sir.

Senator BRISTOw. Did you ever circulate any literature in regard to the Hay-Pauncefote treaty in Europe?

Mr. SCOTT. No; I have told you that our pecadillos, if you so regard them

The CHAIRMAN. Are you preparing to say that none of the literature issued by your society a year or eighteen months since in connection with the Hay-Pauncefote treaty and the controversy growing out of it were not circulated abroad?

Mr. SCOTT. In case of Mr. Root's speech and in the case of that statement some have been sent abroad.

The CHAIRMAN. How many?

Mr. SCOTT. 1,000 copies of this statement were sent to our office in Paris to be distributed among the officials and persons connected

The CHAIRMAN. I suppose they all reached the officials of the British Government?

Mr. SCOTT. I can not give you any statement about that.
The CHAIRMAN. What is your impression?

Mr. SCOTT. I think not.

The CHAIRMAN. You think not?

Mr. SCOTT. I think not, but I shall be glad to look it up if you choose. The statement was published, Mr. Chairman, in the newspapers and reached the attention

The CHAIRMAN. I accept nearly everything as correct which appears in the newspapers. I have been quoting them this afternoon, and my faith in some of them must be confirmed, since you say you saw in some of them certain statements which have never been questioned as to the situation which ensued at the time the effort. began to attempt to repeal the exemption ciause. We are very much indebted to you, Mr. Scott, for coming here this afternoon.

Mr. SCOTT. Before the adjournment, may I make a statement? I am very grateful to you for your kindness. I am sorry I have been able to give you all the information you have asked for, but I shall endeavor to supply it in such form as you wish.

(Thereupon at 6.30 o'clock p. m. the committee adjourned until Monday, April 20, 1914, at 10.30 o'clock a. m.)

APPENDIX.

CLAYTON-BULWER TREATY OF APRIL 19, 1850.

The United States of America and Her Britannic Majesty, being desirous of consolidating the relations of amity which so happily subsist between them, by setting forth and fixing in a convention their views and intentions with reference to any means of communication by ship-canal which may be constructed between the

Atlantic and Pacific oceans by the way of the river San Juan de Nicaragua and either or both of the lakes of Nicaragua or Managua, to any port or place on the Pacific Ocean, the President of the United States has conferred full powers on John M. Clayton, Secretary of State of the United States, and Her Britannic Majesty on the Right Honorable Sir Henry Lytton Bulwer, a member of Her Majesty's most honorable privy council, knight commander of the most honorable Order of the Bath, and envoy extraordinary and minister plenipotentiary of Her Britannic Majesty to the United States, for the aforesaid purpose; and the said plenipotentiaries having exchanged their full powers, which were found to be in proper form, have agreed to the following articles:

ARTICLE I.

The Governments of the United States and Great Britain hereby declare that neither the one nor the other will ever obtain or maintain for itself any exclusive control over the said ship canal; agreeing that neither will ever erect or maintain any fortifications commanding the same or in the vicinity thereof, or occupy, or fortify, or colonize, or assume, or exercise any dominion over Nicaragua, Costa Rica, the Mosquito coast, or any part of Central America; nor will either make use of any protection which either affords or may afford, or any alliance which either has or may have to or with any state or people, for the purpose of erecting or maintaining any such fortifications, or of occupying, fortifying, or colonizing Nicaragua, Costa Rica, the Mosquito coast, or any part of Central America, or of assuming or exercising dominion over the same; nor will the United States or Great Britain take advantage of any intimacy, or use any alliance, connection, or influence that either may possess with any state or government through whose territory the said canal may pass, for the purpose of acquiring or holding, directly or indirectly, for the citizens or subjects of the one, any rights or advantages in regard to commerce or navigation through the said canal which shall not be offered on the same terms to the citizens or subjects of the other.

ARTICLE II.

Vessels of the United States or Great Britain traversing the said canal shall, in case of war between the contracting parties, be exempted from blockade, detention, or capture by either of the belligerents; and this provision shall extend to such a distance from the two ends of the said canal as may hereafter be found expedient to establish.

ARTICLE III.

In order to secure the construction of the said canal, the contracting parties engage that if any such canal shall be undertaken upon fair and equitable terms by any parties having the authority of the local government or governments through whose territory the same may pass, then the persons employed in making the said canal, and their property used, or to be used, for that object, shall be protected, from the commencement of the said canal to its completion, by the Governments of the United States and Great Britain, from unjust detention, confiscation, seizure, or any violence whatsoever.

ARTICLE IV.

The contracting parties will use whatever influence they respectively exercise with any state, states, or governments possessing or claiming to possess any jurisdiction or right over the territory which the said canal shall traverse, or which shall be near the waters applicable thereto, in order to induce such states or governments to facilitate the construction of the said canal by every means in their power. And furthermore, the United States and Great Britain agree to use their good offices, wherever or however it may be most expedient, in order to procure the establishment of two free ports, one at each end of the said canal.

ARTICLE V.

The contracting parties further engage, that when the said canal shall have been completed, they will protect it from interruption, seizure, or unjust confiscation, and that they will guarantee the neutrality thereof, so that the said canal may forever be open and free, and the capital invested therein secure. Nevertheless, the Govern ments of the United States and Great Britain, in according their protection to the construction of the said canal, and guaranteeing its neutrality and security when completed, always understand that this protection and guarantee are granted conditionally, and may be withdrawn by both governments, or either government, if both

governments, or either government, should deem that the persons or company undertaking or managing the same adopt or establish such regulations concerning the traffic thereupon as are contrary to the spirit and intention of this convention, either by making unfair discriminations in favor of the commerce of one of the contracting parties over the commerce of the other, or by imposing oppressive exactions or unreasonable tolls upon the passengers, vessels, goods, wares, merchandise, or other articles. Neither party, however, shall withdraw the aforesaid protection and guarantee without first giving six months' notice to the other.

ARTICLE VI.

The contracting parties in this convention engage to invite every state with which both or either have friendly intercourse to enter into stipulations with them similar to those which they have entered into with each other, to the end that all other States may share in the honor and advantage of having contributed to a work of such general interest and importance as the canal herein contemplated. And the contracting parties likewise agree that each shall enter into treaty stipulations with such of the Central American States as they may deem advisable, for the purpose of more effectually carrying out the great design of this convention, namely, that of constructing and maintaining the said canal as a ship communication between the two oceans for the benefit of mankind, on equal terms to all, and of protecting the same; and they also agree, that the good offices of either shall be employed, when requested by the other, in aiding and assisting the negotiation of such treaty stipulations; and should any differences arise as to right or property over the territory through which the said canal shall pass between the states or governments of Central America, and such differences should in any way impede or obstruct the execution of the said canal, the Governments of the United States and Great Britain will use their good offices to settle such differences in the manner best suited to promote the interests of the said canal, and to strengthen the bonds of friendship and alliance which exist between the contracting parties.

ARTICLE VII.

It being desirable that no time should be unnecessarily lost in commencing and constructing the said canal, the Governments of the United States and Great Britain determine to give their support and encouragement to such persons or company as may first offer to commence the same, with the necessary capital, the consent of the local authorities, and on such principles as accord with the spirit and intention of this convention; and if any persons or company should already have, with any State through which the proposed ship canal may pass, a contract for the construction of such canal as that specified in this convention, to the stipulations of which contract neither of the contracting parties in this convention have any just cause to object, and the said persons or company shall moreover have made preparations, and expended time, money, and trouble, on the faith of such contract, it is hereby agreed that such persons or company shall have a priority of claim over every other person, persons, or company to the protection of the Governments of the United States and Great Britain, and be allowed a year from the date of the exchange of the ratifications of this convention for concluding their arrangements, and presenting evidence of sufficient capital subscribed to accomplish the contemplated undertaking; it being understood that if, at the expiration of the aforesaid period, such persons or company be not able to commence and carry out the proposed enterprise, then the Governments of the United States and Great Britain shall be free to afford their protection to any other persons or company that shall be prepared to commence and proceed with the construction of the canal in question.

ARTICLE VIII.

The Governments of the United States and Great Britain having not only desired, in entering into this convention, to accomplish a particular object, but also to establish a general principle, they hereby agree to extend their protection, by treaty stipulations, to any other practicable communications, whether by canal or railway, across the isthmus which connects North and South America, and especially to the interoceanic communications, should the same prove to be practicable, whether by canal or railway, which are now proposed to be established by the way of Tehuantepec or Panama. In granting, however, their joint protection to any such canals or railways as are by this article specified, it is always understood by the United States and Great Britain that the parties constructing or owning the same shall impose no other charges or con

ditions of traffic thereupon than the aforesaid Governments shall approve of as just and equitable; and that the same canals or railways, being open to the citizens and subjects of the United States and Great Britain on equal terms, shall also be open on like terms to the citizens and subjects of every other State which is willing to grant thereto such protection as the United States and Great Britain engage to afford.

ARTICLE IX.

The ratifications of this convention shall be exchanged at Washington within six months from this day, or sooner if possible.

In faith whereof we, the respective plenipotentiaries, have signed this convention and have hereunto affixed our seals.

Done at Washington the nineteenth day of April, anno Domini one thousand eight hundred and fifty. JOHN M. CLAYTON. HENRY LYTTON BULWER. [L. 8.]

[L. S.]

HAY-PAUNCEFOTE TREATY OF 1900.

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, TRANSMITTING A CONVENTION BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND GREAT BRITAIN TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHIP CANAL TO CONNECT THE ATLANTIC AND PACIFIC OCEANS, AND TO REMOVE ANY OBJECTION WHICH MIGHT ARISE OUT OF THE CONVENTION COMMONLY CALLED THE CLAYTON-BULWER TREATY.

To the Senate:

I transmit herewith, with a view to receive the advice and consent of the Senate to its ratification, a convention this day signed by the respective plenipotentiaries of the United States and Great Britain to facilitate the construction of a ship canal to connect the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, and to remove any objection which might arise out of the convention of April 19, 1850, commonly called the Clayton-Bulwer treaty, to the construction of such canal under the auspices of the Government of the United States. WILLIAM MCKINLEY.

EXECUTIVE MANSION,

Washington, D. C., February 5, 1900.

The United States of America and Her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Empress of India, being desirous to facilitate the construction of a ship canal to connect the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, and to that end to remove any objection which may arise out of the Convention of April 19, 1850, commonly called the Clayton-Bulwer Treaty, to the construction of such canal under the auspices of the Government of the United States, without impairing the "general principle" of neutralization established in Article VIII of that Convention, have for that purpose appointed as their Plenipotentiaries:

The President of the United States, John Hay, Secretary of State of the United States of America,

And Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, Empress of India, The Right Honble. Lord Pauncefote, G. C. B., G. C. M. G., Her Majesty's Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary to the United States;

Who, having communicated to each other their full powers, which were found to be in due and proper form, have agreed upon the following articles:

ARTICLE I.

It is agreed that the canal may be constructed under the auspices of the Government of the United States, either directly at its own cost or by gift or loan of money to individuals or corporations or through subscription to or purchase of stock or shares, and that, subject to the provisions of the present Convention, the said Government shall have and enjoy all the rights incident to such construction, as well as the exclu sive right of providing for the regulation and management of the canal.